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Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Paradigm Shifter — Thu May 24, 2012 4:22 pm

Author: Paradigm Shifter

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 4:22 pm

Rhakios wrote:

Nah, go on, we all like to point and laugh...

Gee, thanks.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Rhakios — Thu May 24, 2012 12:23 am

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 12:23 am

Paradigm Shifter wrote:

From anyone? As a new subscriber (although longer-term reader) I'd feel out of place doing something like that...

Nah, go on, we all like to point and laugh...

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Joe1011010 — Wed May 23, 2012 11:46 pm

Author: Joe1011010

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:46 pm

Back to the original point - the Package Manager article. I thought it was more of a review of different distributions and how their package managers worked than a review of package managers. There are a lot of distributions and I wanted to understand which distributions are interchangeable as they use the same package manager, and which package manager might be the best. I will read the article again and see if it helps, but the first time it didn't.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Paradigm Shifter — Wed May 23, 2012 6:46 pm

Author: Paradigm Shifter

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 6:46 pm

jonrob wrote:

Great question! Feel free to send in pictures of your desktop to any of us. My e-mail is jonathan.roberts@futurenet.com. Remember to include descriptions of the different parts.

I should probably make a sticky out of this and put something on TuxRadar. As you might have guessed, we've been running low!

From anyone? As a new subscriber (although longer-term reader) I'd feel out of place doing something like that...

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

wyliecoyoteuk — Wed May 23, 2012 5:22 pm

Author: wyliecoyoteuk

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 5:22 pm

Rhakios wrote:

My wife wouldn't stand for a big screen.
The main criteria is how easy it is to hide. Ours is in the middle of a large bookcase, and is concealed with an oil painting when not in use.

Quote:

Still, if someone offered me one of those 82" touch-screen jobs for free, I'd find somewhere to put it.

If I got one for free, I'd probably put it on eBay. Anyway grain like golfballs in terms of image.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

jonrob — Wed May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

Author: jonrob

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 4:46 pm

Nuke wrote:

Incidentally, in the last three Geek Desktops we have hardly been able to see the PC itself. How do you get to be featured in that item?

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Rhakios — Tue May 22, 2012 7:53 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:53 pm

wyliecoyoteuk wrote:

Our largest screen is a 23" monitor, and that's in the living room as our main TV. More than adequate. (and I had an argument getting one that big)

I'm inclined to know what you mean, I bought a 32" TV a few years ago and didn't realise how big it would be in my sitting room, I've got used to it now though. Actually, something 28" with minimum bezel would probably be best.

Still, if someone offered me one of those 82" touch-screen jobs for free, I'd find somewhere to put it.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Paradigm Shifter — Tue May 22, 2012 11:43 am

Author: Paradigm Shifter

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:43 am

I'd have nowhere to put it; none of the rooms in my house are big enough to get a decent distance away from something that big!

Besides, the pixel pitch on an 82" 1080p screen would be appalling. I was half hoping that it'd be a higher res than that, but no... another page on their site says 1080p. That's a DPI of just over 26, or a pixel pitch of 0.9455mm...

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

wyliecoyoteuk — Tue May 22, 2012 11:24 am

Author: wyliecoyoteuk

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:24 am

Rhakios wrote:

Oh come on, if you could afford one of these 82" screens, tell me you wouldn't get one!

Nope, we wouldn't have it in the house.
Our largest screen is a 23" monitor, and that's in the living room as our main TV. More than adequate. (and I had an argument getting one that big)

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Nuke — Tue May 22, 2012 12:32 am

Author: Nuke

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 12:32 am

With an 82" screen, the "Anatomy of a Geek Desktop" feature would need to be a centre spread

Incidentally, in the last three Geek Desktops we have hardly been able to see the PC itself. How do you get to be featured in that item?

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Rhakios — Mon May 21, 2012 11:37 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:37 pm

Oh come on, if you could afford one of these 82" screens, tell me you wouldn't get one!

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Nuke — Mon May 21, 2012 10:18 pm

Author: Nuke

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:18 pm

Agree again. I remember a few years ago when the suggestion of touch-screen desktops came up (on Slashdot), early days, someone made a comment along the lines of why should they reach out their arm in the air and put greasemarks on their screen, when they can instead make small movements of a mouse with their arm resting on their desk?

I do even better - I use a trackball and can move my cursor all over the screen with just a thumb movement, not even my arm.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

wyliecoyoteuk — Sun May 20, 2012 11:25 pm

Author: wyliecoyoteuk

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:25 pm

Touch is fine for mobile kit, nothing better in fact.
But for the desktop, it is in the same league as 3D and videophones. Applications that the tech industry wants to sell, but nobody really wants to buy.

Let's face it, video phones have been around for years, and almost nobody uses them more than once or twice a year, if at all.
3D is still a washout, despite large advertising spend.

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Marrea — Sun May 20, 2012 9:42 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:42 pm

Paradigm Shifter wrote:

The idea of a touchscreen desktop leaves me baffled. Why would I want one? I sit pretty far back from my monitors so a touchscreen would just not work as I'd have to stretch to reach.

.... I've spent the last nine years (that was when I bought my first TFT) being obsessive about don't-poke-the-screen-because-that-is-bad. Combine that with the fact that there is nothing I hate more than someone poking greasy fingers on my monitor and touchscreens seem worse than pointless - they seem like a personal nightmare.

I am left with the impression that it's less a tech 'advance' and more a company saying "We think it's cool. So we're gonna do it, and you're going to buy it."

I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say here.

I can appreciate that touchscreens are probably handy for mobile gadgets (not that I myself have any interest in such a thing) but desktop computers?

Re: Copy/Paste Error - Issue 159, July 2012

Paradigm Shifter — Sun May 20, 2012 7:20 pm

Author: Paradigm Shifter

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 7:20 pm

Marrea wrote:

Rhakios wrote:

Well, if we are to ignore the offerings from Dell, HP, Lenovo, Acer, Asus and Sony (to name the few manufacturers I've noticed), then I suppose that might be true,

I happened to be in PC World yesterday and walked past a display of HP TouchSmart All-in-One Desktop PCs, one of which was being prodded enthusiastically by two teenage girls.

The idea of a touchscreen desktop leaves me baffled. Why would I want one? I sit pretty far back from my monitors so a touchscreen would just not work as I'd have to stretch to reach.

I could maybe see it for a laptop, except that I've spent the last nine years (that was when I bought my first TFT) being obsessive about don't-poke-the-screen-because-that-is-bad. Combine that with the fact that there is nothing I hate more than someone poking greasy fingers on my monitor and touchscreens seem worse than pointless - they seem like a personal nightmare.

I am left with the impression that it's less a tech 'advance' and more a company saying "We think it's cool. So we're gonna do it, and you're going to buy it."

My greatest concern with touchscreen PC implementations, however, is support. I'm fully expecting many of the touchscreens to work on the installed OS (say, Windows 7 or 8 ) but have drivers that look at Vista or XP and say, "Sorry, not gonna do that." Or worse, outright refuse to run with linux, in the way of many "winmodems" (back in the day) or WLAN cards in the early days of Intel's "Centrino" specification. My primary system, even now, has a NIC that just doesn't have linux drivers; while that system is pretty much gaming-only (and therefore Windows only) it doesn't change that fact that I'd like to have Arch or Debian on there - or both - but the NIC manufacturer doesn't want to support linux.