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Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

mrguitarmann — Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:50 pm

Author: mrguitarmann

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:50 pm

towy71 wrote:

It is reported that Microparp are having to rewrite 60% of the code for Vista see here, well there is a surprise

First thing they need to do is get rid of the Windows 3.1 Font Install dialog... Go on, go try it now

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

jbennet — Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:31 am

Author: jbennet

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:31 am

windows rox! (but NOT xp)
bring back 3.1 i use it here and no nasty spware or viruses for me, unless they happen to be 16 bit!
mmm... 16 bit goodness. 3.11 has IE5, File and print sharing and office (4?) as well as works 94 and Lotus and it plays cds and has media player, all in a glorious 8mb of ram

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

GMorgan — Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:45 pm

Author: GMorgan

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:45 pm

Bl�tann wrote:

So in a way we can say that M$ is keeping WINE a good project whatever they do?

They will probably break the API slightly but I think most peoples perceptions would prefer Vista to WINE anyway. If none of the apps worked in Vista they may have all gone to WINE enmass.

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

jjmac — Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:10 pm

Author: jjmac

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:10 pm

>>
then they decided to code everything from scratch,
>>

Who, MS ... , that'll be the day (grin)

jm

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

Bl�tann — Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:17 pm

Author: Bl�tann

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:17 pm

So in a way we can say that M$ is keeping WINE a good project whatever they do?

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

GMorgan — Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:56 pm

Author: GMorgan

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:56 pm

Bl�tann wrote:

towy71 wrote:

It is reported that Microparp are having to rewrite 60% of the code for Vista see here, well there is a surprise

Beware!
This is probable a good thing for the future of Windows.
I think they should have changed 100% of their code years ago. Then they wouldn�t have to do the patchwork they struggle with today.
They also would have far less trouble with spyware, viruses and such because they could build an os that is designed to be networked not patched to.
(any competition comes to mind?)

But as mentioned by someone else, they�re run by suits.
And by then they probably said that they could make more money by patching than by rewriting.

As of today the expences and possibly the need to rewrite is much higher.

Anything good about M$?

Yes, their Mouses (have no experience with joystick or keyboard).

As I understand it the 60% rumour is slightly off. They haven't rewrote 60% of their code, they've replaced 60% with NT code. Originally they were going to use NT, then they decided to code everything from scratch, then at the last minute the rumours are 60% of this new code is being dumped. The only logical explaination is that they are going back to NT land (can you really write an entire kernel from scratch in 12 months and expect it to be good enough for the modern market).

So there is actually less new code in there as a result of this 60% figure. Personally I think they realised that the new kernel breaks backwards compatibility so much that it'd make the WINE project look a good prospect. A year from now I imagine that the number of programs that run in WINE will increase dramatically.

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

Bl�tann — Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:01 am

Author: Bl�tann

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:01 am

BSD??
Apple has a system that uses FreeBSD as a reference but M$?!

But you�ve gotta give it to them, they did invent "Clippy"
This is only one (eh.. the only one) of the great ideas you can enjoy when using Genuine Advantage.

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

jjmac — Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:10 am

Author: jjmac

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:10 am

Howdy Bl�tann,

>>
Beware!
This is probable a good thing for the future of Windows.
>>

Thats a good point actually ...

I suspect part of the MS strategy is to observe what "works" in oss, in terms what people perceive to be desirable ... and then try to implement it within their own concept space. And also try to sell the "idea" as being a MS innovationl. Umm, funny how they like to think, or rather suggest, that an "administrative mode" is one of their great ideas . Were would they be if it wasn't for BSD in the first place. Now there's a licence that has a flaw some where i think.

>>
Anything good about M$?

Yes, their Mouses (have no experience with joystick or keyboard).
>>

I know i don't have to , but i'll mention it anyway in case any viewers don't know this ... MS didn't actually invent the mices either (grin).

jm

Agentina vs Mexico -=- 2 - 1 (extra time)
What a Game !!!

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

Bl�tann — Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:20 pm

Author: Bl�tann

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:20 pm

towy71 wrote:

It is reported that Microparp are having to rewrite 60% of the code for Vista see here, well there is a surprise

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

jjmac — Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:07 am

Author: jjmac

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:07 am

A dry fillet might do it, or water mellon rind ...

jm
Humpty Dumpty Was Pushed !

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

towy71 — Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:42 pm

Author: towy71

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 6:42 pm

the keyboard is trickier, especially on a laptop

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

nelz — Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:54 pm

Author: nelz

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:54 pm

Rhakios wrote:

You can use your priest, just don't bash him with your bishop

Can someone remind me of the best way to clean tea off a monitor?

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

1slipperyfish — Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:32 pm

Author: 1slipperyfish

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:32 pm

he probably wants to bash me on the bottom
he looks the type
paul

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

Rhakios — Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:21 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:21 pm

I don't know, I can't tell. Bash on the dots? Bash him on the embarrassed?

You can use your priest, just don't bash him with your bishop

Re: Micro$oft in trouble?

towy71 — Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:00 pm

Author: towy71

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:00 pm

If I could just find my fishing tackle, I would use my priest to bash that damned fish on the.... did I just type that