Linux Format forums

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

nelz — Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:38 pm

Author: nelz

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:38 pm

jjmac wrote:

Mainly because the GPL and FOSS is one thing they just __can't__ get their heads around ... like, they even have to employ "profesionals", as they put it, to explain it to them ,

You don't really believe that line do you? The whole thing about investigating OSS is so they don't have to actually do or say anything about it.

Hmm , I wonder if "No Paul, I haven't sent you my copy for the next issue yet, because I'm still researching and investigating it" would work?

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

jjmac — Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:22 pm

Author: jjmac

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:22 pm

>>
Anyone who wants to can take Micrix and distribute it themselves, of course, and Microsoft does accept submissions for the code base from the community
>>

(very_big_grin), I think Bill would go into some sought of fit as a result. It just isn't them. Funny story though . I liked the mention of the "slipping in" of proprietry extensions under the guise of standards bit. Thats a really MS typical trick. But the scenareo will never happen. Mainly because the GPL and FOSS is one thing they just __can't__ get their heads around ... like, they even have to employ "profesionals", as they put it, to explain it to them ,

I think that they think, it's really an insideous commie plot in a way. MS Linux, Nope, i really don't think so Mr BBC reporter. They would have tryed it all ready if they were capable of the concept. I think MS will continue, in full belief, with the 1998 October FUD plan. And so are a danger to the free world. But, what will they come up with next (grin), after SCO ??t. Though that was more just an opportunism than a real strategy on MSs' part.

The scenareo in that article would make a really good tv comedy show though. But who could live with being lumbered with playing Ballmer (yuk). The problems with casting are many (grin).

jm

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

ggreaves — Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:43 pm

Author: ggreaves

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:43 pm

Its all 'bout spin have a look at this BBC news artical

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4727267.stm

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

Marrea — Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm

towy71 wrote:

Longhorn is now officially "Vista" so you can see that you are clearly being ripped off,

Dick

Have you seen Rick Maybury's column (Connected Comment) in today's Daily Telegraph?

One wag has suggested that Vista might be an acronym for Windows' top five problems: Viruses, Infections, Spyware, Trojans and Adware.

Like it !!

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

ggreaves — Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:54 am

Author: ggreaves

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:54 am

Well I sent in my response lets see if they publish it... see below.

Microsoft's future is far from secure. I would describe it as comfortable as long as they keep on the ball. Linux, GNU/GPL and OpenSource are currently the biggest threat to Microsoft. But the new threat on the horizon is from Apple. Apple's move to Intel CPUs (from PowerPC) in Q1 of 2006 will provide a stern challenge to the Redmond Gang. With that portable Unix kernel under the Mac OS X hood, its ability to work with Linux applications, and MS Office X available for Mac, Microsoft's long term future will become uncomfortable.

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

jjmac — Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:39 pm

Author: jjmac

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:39 pm

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

M-Saunders — Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:19 pm

Author: M-Saunders

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:19 pm

jjmac wrote:

Also, this thing MS has come up with lately about how they intend to be more OSS compliant (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm), and how they are employing profesionals to teach them about the philosophy behind OSS. Good grief ... i smell a smirff (grin)

Indeed! Doncha just love Microsoftspeak:

"We're trying to understand open source"

Billions of dollars, execs aplenty, a vast research division and the minds of thousands of coders... and they still have a hard time understanding open source?

If a 13 year old kid can understand it, and Microsoft's head honchos can't, it's a strange world

M

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

jjmac — Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:26 am

Author: jjmac

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:26 am

ggsinclair wrote:
>>
The main point that annoyed me was " And it takes a fairly computer-literate user to install and maintain the open source operating system on a personal computer".
>>

I haven't got much of a point to say. But you are pointing out one of the classic consistencies that seem to come out of windows land. The perception they promote, that windows is easier. They have even managed to convince people that viruses and the like are actually par for the course. And even the rediculouse suggestion, that if it wasn't for those dodgy open source people then these things wouldn't be happening. What can be done ... i mean like ... if you shoot one you will need to shoot em all really. Mabe Ballmer will bounce of the stage next time he's doing his psycho-monkey interpretation. But then, maybe not I think there is still a long road to go. Also, this thing MS has come up with lately about how they intend to be more OSS compliant (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm), and how they are employing profesionals to teach them about the philosophy behind OSS. Good grief ... i smell a smirff (grin)

jm

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

A-Wing — Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:52 pm

Author: A-Wing

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:52 pm

Nigel wrote:

Given the number of virus/spyware/adware riddled XP systems I see, I'd say it takes a fairly computer-literate user to install and maintain Windows as well

And even then you need to reinstall every 6 months or so with the amount of general crap it gets infested with (not just spyware / viri / adware but poorly installed apps / games / devices).

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

Nigel — Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:33 pm

Author: Nigel

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:33 pm

ggsinclair wrote:

The main point that annoyed me was " And it takes a fairly computer-literate user to install and maintain the open source operating system on a personal computer".

Given the number of virus/spyware/adware riddled XP systems I see, I'd say it takes a fairly computer-literate user to install and maintain Windows as well

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

ggsinclair — Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:24 pm

Author: ggsinclair

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:24 pm

The main point that annoyed me was " And it takes a fairly computer-literate user to install and maintain the open source operating system on a personal computer".

When people who are unfamiliar with Linux read that it will, in most cases, put them off ever trying it, no matter what the rest of the article says.

I am computer illiterate and I manage - albeit with the occasional help from the kind folk of the LXF Forums!

Gordon

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

A-Wing — Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:40 pm

Author: A-Wing

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:40 pm

I thought 2003 was XP server rebranded when sales were bad, but I have been out of touch with Windows _technology_ for a long time

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

Nigel — Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:24 pm

Author: Nigel

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:24 pm

A-Wing wrote:

It was going to be called Windows 7 (or seven) but the execs decided they liked vista better. Any idea what happened to Windows 6 then as XP is 5.1

Just a guess, but maybe Windows 6 = Windows Server 2003

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

A-Wing — Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:20 pm

Author: A-Wing

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:20 pm

It was going to be called Windows 7 (or seven) but the execs decided they liked vista better. Any idea what happened to Windows 6 then as XP is 5.1

Re: The BBC has annoyed me again!

towy71 — Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:41 am

Author: towy71

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:41 am

Longhorn is now officially "Vista" so you can see that you are clearly being ripped off,

oh dear I ain't bitter

Dick