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                                        <title>Desktop Shortcut</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:26 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      It may not seem like much but I wasn't able to get Serna to show up as an installed application on the Application Manager. The only way to get it to run was to dive through the file manager to the executable. A real nuisance for every day use. A desktop shortcut solved that issue.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:26 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Thank you!</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75837#75837</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:49 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tallbob wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;I made a working desktop short cut, all is right with the world.&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow! I had no idea that desktop shortcuts were so powerful &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:49 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Thank you!</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75833#75833</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:37 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      To Rhakios, nelz, ollie, lok1950&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span style=&quot;font-size: 18px; line-height: normal&quot;&gt;Thank you!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I made a working desktop short cut, all is right with the world.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:37 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Syntext Announced Serna Free XML Editor</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75823#75823</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1257'&gt;lok1950&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:39 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Which desktop did go with Gnome or KDE but the procedure is similar for both right-click the icon for the Application menu there should be an option to Edit (edit the menu ) the interface just differs between the Gnome/KDE but is fairly straight forward you will be able to figure it out &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Enjoy the Choice &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_smile.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Smile&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>lok1950</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:39 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Almost there</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:06 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Thanks for the help. I got it working. The first thing I did was replace Ubuntu with Open SUSE 11.1 (with a disc from Linux Format magazine). After getting that running and updated I downloaded the rpm package from the Serna web site. I think my problem before was that in the download manager in Ubuntu I let the archive manager open the download. In Open SUSE the default is to open with the package installer and that worked. I think if I had changed the opening software under Ubuntu's download manager, it may have worked. I'm letting my newness show, I didn't think to change from the defaults in Ubuntu. When I got the software installed first off I looked for it in the Application Browser, not there. Next I checked in the Software Manager, there it was. It took a little scouting around but I found the serna.sh file under usr/local/serna-4.1/bin. I double clicked it and there was the editor. Yea! &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Very Happy&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; I copied the serna.sh file to the desktop and it works fine. I would like to get Serna to show up in the Applications Browser just like regular installed applications, how do I do that?  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_confused.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Confused&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:06 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Syntext Announced Serna Free XML Editor</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:29 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Please show your working, i.e. the exact command as you used it and the exact error from the console.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Jul 10, 2009 6:29 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>serna.bin</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75779#75779</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:58 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Now I'm getting an error that says serna.bin not available. I can clearly see it in the browser. What up with that?</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:58 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Almost there</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2326'&gt;ollie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:10 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tallbob wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Run Serna as:  /usr/local/bin/serna-4.1&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Try typing &amp;quot;serna-4.1&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;/usr/local/bin/serna-4.1&amp;quot; in a terminal window. If that doen't work try &amp;quot;sh serna-4.1&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;sh /usr/local/bin/serna-4.1&amp;quot;.</description>
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                                        <author>ollie</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:10 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Almost there</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:56 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Ok, I think we're getting closer. It looks like the installation is complete. Here is a paste from the terminal window.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Code:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;code&quot;&gt;bob@bob-laptop&amp;#58;~/SernaTgz/serna-4.1$ sudo ./install.sh&lt;br /&gt;
Enter installation prefix &amp;#91;/usr/local&amp;#93;&amp;#58; &lt;br /&gt;
Installing Serna to&amp;#58; /usr/local/serna-4.1&lt;br /&gt;
exec&amp;#58; 37&amp;#58; /usr/local/serna-4.1/bin/serna.bin&amp;#58; not found&lt;br /&gt;
Installation is finished. Run Serna as&amp;#58;&amp;nbsp; /usr/local/bin/serna-4.1&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Excuse my stupidity, what do I do now? There should be an executable to run or something.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:56 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Still unable to install Serna</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75691#75691</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=5'&gt;nelz&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:29 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Tallbob wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;bob@bob-laptop:~$ sudo /home/bob/SernaTgz/serna-4.1/install.sh&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Quote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;  Change to this directory and run installation script&amp;#058; &lt;br /&gt;
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  ./install.sh&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Looks like you missed this part.</description>
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                                        <author>nelz</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:29 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Still unable to install Serna</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:54 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;I tried installing again, here is a paste from the terminal window&lt;br /&gt;
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bob@bob-laptop:~$ sudo /home/bob/SernaTgz/serna-4.1/install.sh&lt;br /&gt;
Enter installation prefix [/usr/local]: &lt;br /&gt;
Installing Serna to: /usr/local/serna-4.1&lt;br /&gt;
gzip: /home/bob/serna-4.1.tgz: No such file or directory&lt;br /&gt;
tar: This does not look like a tar archive&lt;br /&gt;
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors&lt;br /&gt;
Installation aborted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;Here is a paste from the install text file:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
REQUIREMENTS:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- glibc:        2.2.0 or higher&lt;br /&gt;
- freetype:     2.0.0 or higher &lt;br /&gt;
- XFree86-libs: 4.1.0 or higher &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
INSTALLATION:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Log in as root.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- TGZ package is unpacked to directory &amp;quot;serna-@DISTVERSION@&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
  (command: tar xvfz serna-4.1.0-20090701.tgz). &lt;br /&gt;
  Change to this directory and run installation script&amp;#058; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
  ./install.sh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- On input provide installation path, or merely hit Enter if &lt;br /&gt;
  &amp;quot;/usr/local&amp;quot; is OK for you.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
- Log out root.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your help is appreciated. I should warn you I'm a newb in Linux. I'm sure there is just something simple I'm missing here.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:54 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Syntext Announced Serna Free XML Editor</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:40 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hmm, it seems to install and run fine on openSUSE11.0 64-bit, but then I have a lot of 32bit comapt libs installed already. Why not download the tgz version, try installing that and then try running it from the command line. If it cops out, it will show you some sort of error message, so you post that here and we'll be a little further along.&lt;br /&gt;
I only have a 32-bit VM of Jaunty to play with and it installs and runs just fine form the tgz installer there.</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:40 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Syntext Announced Serna Free XML Editor</title>
                                        <link>http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=75658#75658</link>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:51 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      64 bit.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:51 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Syntext Announced Serna Free XML Editor</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:04 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Hmm, also, 32-bit or 64-bit?</description>
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                                        <author>Rhakios</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jul 05, 2009 10:04 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Serna for Ubuntu</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=65554'&gt;Tallbob&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:44 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 (kernal 2-6-28-13). I'm just getting into Linux and I thought XML and Serna would make a good app to experiment with.</description>
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                                        <author>Tallbob</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:44 pm</pubDate>
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