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Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:00 pm

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:00 pm

Marrea,
Good news, sound is there. It said something about no card identified, I usually rely on the on-board stuff, even in Windows, it does all I want. However, the precious baby that Linux is...if that's what it wants...that's what it can have. Popped one in and wahey, AC/DC 'It's A Long Way To The Top (if you wanna rock 'n' roll) VERY robust.

I think (IMHO) the sound via Linux does sound better than Windows, don't know why, but there you go.

So, all in all a good start to a couple of weeks holiday.
And, I only said you could have an extra ginger biscuit...don't you go going to one of those twee Chiltern Scone & T-Shop's! I don't want an astronomical bill ariving at Chez Robinson, thank you very much

See you all in a couple of weeks.

Kind regards, Pete

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

Marrea — Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:53 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:53 pm

eastcoastdrifter wrote:

The only downside (there had to be one) sound has disappeared on Fedora (and it isn't the settings in the BIOS this time). But don't worry - as if I'll try and sort it out.

Hi eastcoastdrifter

Glad you got xine sorted.

I'm not very good with computer sound, I'm afraid (apart from that one occasion when I was able to help you because by a strange coincidence I'd had the same problem and by some fluke found the answer !). Don't even understand it in Windows. I tend to use a conventional hi-fi for listening to music rather than the computer !!

Are you missing sound generally, ie even in xine (can't be much fun watching DVDs with no audio)? Or is it just in audio specific applications?

Hopefully someone else might be able to give you a steer on this.

Quote:

You've done the hardest part. Have an extra ginger biscuit with your cup o' char tonight...on me

I will indeed, thanks. I'll send you the bill.

Quote:

I can just about string both parts of my name together

But doesn't "east", "coast" and "drifter" equal three parts of a name?

Cheers
Marrea

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

Marrea — Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:26 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:26 pm

RD wrote:

err oops sorry

No need whatsoever for apologies

Cheers
Marrea

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

RD — Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:15 pm

Author: RD

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:15 pm

Marrea wrote:

RD wrote:

>>Then if you want DVDs to autoplay in xine when you insert them, go to Desktop > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media, select the Multimedia tab, check the box beside "Play video DVD disks when inserted", delete totem dvd:// and type in xine dvd:// (without the underlinings which appear here)

You should not need to do that libdvdcss is for decrypting the encryption keys with some dvd films. the last time i played with RH os all you needed to do to watch dvds was simply install libdvdcss and bingo start xine enjoy of course it helps with mplayer installed (or just the dep's ie transcode, mencoder etc) now a days i simply apt-get install libdvdcss && mplayer and jobs done

Hi RD

The way my FC4 was set up by default was to have the "Play video DVD disks when inserted" (in Preferences) unchecked, so when I put a DVD in the drive it prevented it from autoplaying. I had to manually open up xine and then click on the DVD button to get it to play. I went into Preferences and checked the box - which, as totem was already entered, meant that program would automatically play DVDs, which I didn't want, so I substituted xine for totem.

That's what I was referring to above - setting up DVDs to autoplay in your favourite program, which is a separate issue from libdvdcss.

Cheers
Marrea

err oops sorry

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:08 pm

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 4:08 pm

Hey Marrea!
Thanks a million times over. I was awestruck when it all started. And yes, the libdvdcss files do come down with everything. I watched all the lines as they unfolded. That is pure magic to me. From no dvd playback and typing some words in...all this happens and the result is just mind-blowing.
You're certainly no novice in my book! I can just about string both parts of my name together, the command stuff just baffles me.

The only downside (there had to be one) sound has disappeared on Fedora (and it isn't the settings in the BIOS this time). But don't worry - as if I'll try and sort it out.
You've done the hardest part. Have an extra ginger biscuit with your cup o' char tonight...on me

My very best regards to you,
Pete.

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

Marrea — Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 am

Author: Marrea

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:27 am

RD wrote:

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:11 am

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 9:11 am

Thanx very much for the replies chaps (and {I'm a lady chap} M )

Keep those strings of code/instructions coming in...cos I haven't the foggiest how you string them together! That, for me, is the black art of Linux. When I get my head round that, I'll be laffin'. I'm collecting a good glossary though.

Today, I am (hopefully) reinstalling for the last time - for a while anyway

Dual-booting on this PC with Mandriva + XP (now set up permanently). And trying a triple on another, failing that. A dual with Fedora + XP on it.

Have fun Peeps!

Regards, Pete.

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

RD — Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:50 am

Author: RD

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2005 12:50 am

>>Then if you want DVDs to autoplay in xine when you insert them, go to Desktop > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media, select the Multimedia tab, check the box beside "Play video DVD disks when inserted", delete totem dvd:// and type in xine dvd:// (without the underlinings which appear here)

You should not need to do that libdvdcss is for decrypting the encryption keys with some dvd films. the last time i played with RH os all you needed to do to watch dvds was simply install libdvdcss and bingo start xine enjoy of course it helps with mplayer installed (or just the dep's ie transcode, mencoder etc) now a days i simply apt-get install libdvdcss && mplayer and jobs done

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

Marrea — Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:19 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:19 pm

You can also get xine from the freshrpms repository.

As root, in a console, type:
rpm -ihv http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/4/i386/RPMS.freshrpms/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm (that whole lot starting from rpm -ihv should all be on one line - it splits it up here and underlines the http bit)
and hit Enter
Stuff will appear on the screen. When it finishes you can then type:
yum install xine

Much more stuff will appear on the screen but finally you will have xine plus its dependencies installed.

One thing that is puzzlling me now is I don't actually remember installing libdvdcss separately although I know I have it on my system, so I'm not sure if it gets installed alongside xine automatically.
If not, you can pick it up from http://stentz.freshrpms.net/rpm.html?id=404

Then if you want DVDs to autoplay in xine when you insert them, go to Desktop > Preferences > Removable Drives and Media, select the Multimedia tab, check the box beside "Play video DVD disks when inserted", delete totem dvd:// and type in xine dvd:// (without the underlinings which appear here)

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:10 pm

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:10 pm

Thanx RD,
I'm quite a way off doing anything more than just poking around for starters. I'm quite new to all this and, I've a large manual to consume!

I'll take your pieces of advice though and add them to my inventory.

Regards, Pete.

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

RD — Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:59 pm

Author: RD

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:59 pm

For dvd you will need a dvd player xine/mplayer etc and libdvdcss to play some retail dvds FC dont support a lot of things due to Licenses and some stuff ilegal in some countries nip along to rpmfind.net and look there you will also need the mp3 rpms to play mp3's

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:35 pm

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:35 pm

Re-install...me?
I'm reinstalling as I type

I like to re/install a few times and all at 'Default' level (because I do weird things to the HDDs to test them out). And I can say with some truth, that Fedora installs better than Mandriva (for me). Although, I think I'm trying to run before walking...trying to 'triple-boot' And it didn't work. So I've decided to dual-boot on two PCs: XP/Linux on each. Till I get more confident.

I followed your link, liked your bit defending Fedora as ok for beginners. I'm not sure I followed all the technical side of the discussion. But I'd rate F4 as ok for beginners too. This was the kind of intro to Linux that I expected from Mandriva.

I've got a reply from someone who may be interested in having a dual-boot with their Windows OS. So I'll have a looksee which of the two I'd recommend and, what they want from it too.

The only downside is...there doesn't appear to be any support for DVD playback on F4. No matter, the book was worth the price on it's own. And sound, is really good.

Thanks for your comments. I'll start a tally if you're interested in my reload count

Regards, Pete.

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

Marrea — Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:23 pm

Author: Marrea

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:23 pm

Hi eastcoastdrifter

Glad to hear you're up and running with FC4.

You might be interested in casting your eye over http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=709&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 where you'll come across views to the effect that FC4 is perhaps not suitable for newbies, which I find slightly hard to understand myself.

Now how long will it be before your first reinstall, I wonder !

Marrea

Re: Fedora 4 now that's nice!

eastcoastdrifter — Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:10 am

Author: eastcoastdrifter

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:10 am

Hello RD & alloydog,

My sprogs can be quite unadventurous at times. Preferring the 'all-in' package of MS stuff. I can understand - partly - because I've just discovered that Fedora 4 doesn't support DVD play. No matter though, I'm learning all the time about each distro's little peculiarities and they are quite endearing. And it isn't as if the cost bankrupts anyone!

With MS - I find - you tend to stagnate a bit once you're into the swing of things? However, Linux keeps you on your toes and it's quite addictive trying each different set up. I really did like how Fedora set itself up though...neat.

Ah well, onward and upwards. Got lots to read today!

Have fun, Pete.

RE: Re: Fedora 4 now that

alloydog — Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:04 am

Author: alloydog

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:04 am

Groovey stuff, I'll look into it. thanks.