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Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

guy — Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:25 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:25 pm

Damn! I was saving the Mac joke for this post.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Rhakios — Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:43 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:43 pm

guy wrote:

Strapping external batteries to an iPhone? That would be far too uncool for Apple.

There are some quite pretty iPhone "jackets" out there. Apple could call them "Macs" instead.

Bringing us very neatly to:

Quote:

My old flash unit has batteries built in, sadly it only fits SLR cameras. Or did you mean some other kind of flash, Rhakios?
(and before you ask, no I'm not going to reveal my old flash unit to you).

Well, that's a relief, but I'm sure Mike would ban the pictures anyway.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

guy — Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:19 pm

Rhakios wrote:

guy wrote:

Rhakios wrote:

I think you'll find that Steve's aversion to Flash can be explained by his being shocked by an old man in a dirty raincoat when he was at an impressionable age.

Surely more to do with the fact that using flash drains your batteries faster.

I think there might be a bit more to it than that. If it was just the battery, then Apple would start selling own-brand external batteries, there are plenty of them available as it is.

Strapping external batteries to an iPhone? That would be far too uncool for Apple. My old flash unit has batteries built in, sadly it only fits SLR cameras. Or did you mean some other kind of flash, Rhakios?
(and before you ask, no I'm not going to reveal my old flash unit to you).

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

towy71 — Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:43 am

Author: towy71

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:43 am

Proprietary monopolists are a bad thing no matter where they come from

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

AndyBaxman — Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:01 am

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:01 am

Rhakios wrote:

guy wrote:

Rhakios wrote:

I think you'll find that Steve's aversion to Flash can be explained by his being shocked by an old man in a dirty raincoat when he was at an impressionable age.

Surely more to do with the fact that using flash drains your batteries faster.

I think there might be a bit more to it than that. If it was just the battery, then Apple would start selling own-brand external batteries, there are plenty of them available as it is.

Its because Apple want to control which apps are available for the iPhone / iPod / iPad. If they allow Flash then they lose that control.

Here's a little tale to illustrate how far Apple will go to maintain its stranglehold of iApps:

Many of you may be aware of a rather neat teaching language called Scratch by MIT.

It makes learning to program fun and allows kids to see results quickly (have a try, it really is fun, and there is a Linux version).

There is a Java based "player" that allows kids to deploy their apps to the Scratch web site for other to see. On top of this, someone (unconnected with MIT) wrote an iPhone app to "play" scratch scripts. It was up on the App store for a short while.

Then Apple banned it (for the same reason it won't allow Flash).

That's right. Apple banned a kids educational toy because it allowed them to write (very crude) apps for the iPhone that were outside of Apple's control.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Rhakios — Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:26 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:26 pm

guy wrote:

Rhakios wrote:

I think you'll find that Steve's aversion to Flash can be explained by his being shocked by an old man in a dirty raincoat when he was at an impressionable age.

Surely more to do with the fact that using flash drains your batteries faster.

I think there might be a bit more to it than that. If it was just the battery, then Apple would start selling own-brand external batteries, there are plenty of them available as it is.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

guy — Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:38 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 5:38 pm

Rhakios wrote:

I think you'll find that Steve's aversion to Flash can be explained by his being shocked by an old man in a dirty raincoat when he was at an impressionable age.

Surely more to do with the fact that using flash drains your batteries faster.

H'mm, I wonder if he kept the photo from all those years ago...

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Rhakios — Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:32 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:32 pm

I think you'll find that Steve's aversion to Flash can be explained by his being shocked by an old man in a dirty raincoat when he was at an impressionable age.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

AndyBaxman — Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:51 am

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:51 am

No, I mean the "F" word that is anathema to Apple.

The Adobe "F" word.

Yes, I know Flash is crap, but crap in a VHS sort of way.

I see Apple's control-freakery continues:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/01/apple_boots_widgety_apps_from_app_store/

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Rhakios — Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:04 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:04 pm

AndyBaxman wrote:

Nobody mention the "F" word.

If you mean Froyo, then I believe HTC have said they will have it ready for the Desire around the end of June. I'm in no particular rush as it seems to work quite nicely as it is.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Bazza — Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:39 pm

Author: Bazza

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:39 pm

Hi AndyBaxman...

Futuristic Fantastic Finesse Fun Fone... ;o)

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

AndyBaxman — Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:44 am

Author: AndyBaxman

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:44 am

Rhakios wrote:

LeeNukes wrote:

I'm happy with my HTC Desire.

Yes, they're lovely phones aren't they.

Could be an iPhone killer. The down-side to Android phones was that they weren't as slick as the iPhone, despite being significantly more flexible.

The Desire has fixed that. Its UI is as slick and smooth as the iPhone's while it offers a far more flexible and rich experience.

And isn't tied down by Apple's anally retentive control freakery.

Nobody mention the "F" word.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

Rhakios — Mon May 31, 2010 2:30 pm

Author: Rhakios

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:30 pm

LeeNukes wrote:

I'm happy with my HTC Desire.

Yes, they're lovely phones aren't they.

Quote:

That doesn't need iTunes at all.

But, it can be used with iTunes if you don't have decent music player, like Amarok

Quote:

So, incidentally, as iTunes doesn't work on Linux, why are we talking about iPads?

Please note the section of the board you're posting in.

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

ollie — Mon May 31, 2010 1:13 pm

Author: ollie

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:13 pm

LeeNukes wrote:

With regards to the right tool for the job, would it make sense to have several different types of cars? A smart car for little City trips, a bigger car for doing some motorway travel and a people carrier for family trips out?

It just doesn't make economical sense.

... but I have a dual cab 4WD ute, an 8-seat people mover and my eldest daughter has a small 4-door hatch (both my daughters still live with me). Doesn't everyone have a range of vehicles available for the task at hand?

And doesn't everyone have a couple of desktops, a laptop and a netbook and everyone else that lives with you has at least one computer? Then there are more desktops and servers at work!

Re: Apple must be doing summat right....

LeeNukes — Mon May 31, 2010 12:29 pm

Author: LeeNukes

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 12:29 pm

I'm happy with my HTC Desire. That doesn't need iTunes at all. So, incidentally, as iTunes doesn't work on Linux, why are we talking about iPads?