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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=2326'&gt;ollie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:22 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      The hard part of most Wi-Fi &amp;quot;boxes&amp;quot; these days is the location and direction of the antenna(s) inside the box. Wireless antennas broadcast in a &amp;quot;doughnut&amp;quot; shape (correctly called a toroid) which means there is a &amp;quot;cone of silence&amp;quot; directly above and below the antenna. Metal objects distort the doughnut, so placing the &amp;quot;box&amp;quot; on &lt;span style=&quot;font-weight: bold&quot;&gt;top&lt;/span&gt; of a fridge can extend the range outwards. You have to experiment to get the best location for your environment.&lt;br /&gt;
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See &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_%28radio%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Antenna (radio)&lt;/a&gt; for more info and diagrams.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:22 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=14187'&gt;Dutch_Master&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:52 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Ah yes. You know, there's more to 'wireless' then just a sender and receiver &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_razz.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Razz&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; There's a whole theory on microwaves, interference, shielding and stuff... &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The choice of location of your AP is of direct influence on its performance. Put it next to metal, either steel rebarb wire in the concrete or a metal box like a fridge, and the results are predictably bad. On top of a freestanding wooden frame yields much better results. And it's those results manufacturers are keen to publish and advertise. So, choose your location well and steer clear from metal.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:52 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=60'&gt;Rhakios&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:41 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Interesting. When I first bought some Apple gear I bought one of their Airport Extreme base stations (the flying saucer type), I kept it on a shelf next to my desktop. For my N800 to get a decent signal I had to hold it about six inches above the base station, I thought it was cr@p.&lt;br /&gt;
Later, I decided to move it into the sitting room and put it high up on a book shelf, now the signal reaches from one end of my flat to the other and I can even pick up the signal on my phone from the car park outside.&lt;br /&gt;
Odd things antennae, but no mention of this &amp;quot;feature&amp;quot; in the manual.</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:41 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:24 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      My belkin drops connections at a range of less than a foot. &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Rolling Eyes&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:24 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=252'&gt;M-Saunders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:08 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;heiowge wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;That's the annoying piece of c***.  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_lol.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Belkin sucks. At least, in my experience. I bought one of their combo ADSL modem + wireless router things for my parents, and its range is pitifully bad. After about five metres of space, with only a wooden door in between, the connection starts to drop. It's so bad, I don't even know why it exists.&lt;br /&gt;
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                                        <author>M-Saunders</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:08 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:51 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      &lt;/span&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt; 	  &lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;PCNetSpec wrote:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;	&lt;tr&gt;	  &lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Or in you need Wireless 802.11&amp;quot;N&amp;quot; - the WNR1000 RangeMax 150&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/td&gt;	&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;postbody&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bought that one thanks.</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Wed Feb 02, 2011 10:51 am</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      That's the annoying piece of c***.  &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_lol.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Laughing&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:33 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=66236'&gt;PCNetSpec&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:40 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      There's a reason the WNR1000 is called a RANGEMAX &lt;img src=&quot;images/smiles/icon_wink.gif&quot; alt=&quot;Wink&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But there should be little in it between the Belkin F5D7230 and the Netgear WGR614 as far as range goes.&lt;br /&gt;
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I take it thet your current router IS an F5D7230 ?&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.broadbandstuff.co.uk/images/7230.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;</description>
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                                        <author>PCNetSpec</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:40 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:20 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Thanks.  They both look pretty good.  I am more inclined to get a G, but my one concern is not being able to match the signal I get from my belkin upstairs.  Does the g level vary much?  I don't mind splurging an extra £20 if it keeps my signal well, but don't want to waste it if there's no difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thing is, upstairs it gets used in the bedroom a lot - I tend to stream stuff from downstairs or just surf in bed.  On the meter at the top of the Gnome desktop I normally get 2 bars upstairs and 4 down.  I wouldn't want to find I had a shaky connection upstairs just for the sake of £20.</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:20 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=66236'&gt;PCNetSpec&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:27 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I've always found Netgear routers to be pretty reliable, so you might want to take a look at the WGR614:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48546&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/48546&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
for Wireless 802.11&amp;quot;G&amp;quot; 54mbps&lt;br /&gt;
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Or in you need Wireless 802.11&amp;quot;N&amp;quot; - the WNR1000 RangeMax 150&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.ebuyer.com/product/166934&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:27 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Re: Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=14187'&gt;Dutch_Master&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:17 pm&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      Linksys/Cisco, Draytek, Fritz (or Fritzbox). Most routers come with integrated modem these days, so check what protocol your ISP uses and if that's supported on your chosen brand/model.</description>
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                                        <author>Dutch_Master</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:17 pm</pubDate>
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                                        <title>Which Cable router</title>
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                                      Author: &lt;a href='http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26409'&gt;heiowge&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
                                      Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:39 am&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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                                      I need a new router.  My old Belkin one keeps dropping the wireless connections to my eeepc (ubuntu 10.10) and my wifes laptop (vista).  Wired connections rarely fail.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was probably going  to get one from ebuyer since I'm going to be paying with paypal.  I don't need anything fancy.  I don't need to be able to connect at the bottom of my garden, but I do need a signal upstairs through a few walls.&lt;br /&gt;
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I need it not to cost too much (sub £50) but be reliable.  So I'm not looking at another belkin.  Can anyone recommend a good brand, or brands to avoid or even better point me at the best one I can get for what I need?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ta.</description>
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                                        <author>heiowge</author>
                                        <pubDate>Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:39 am</pubDate>
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