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Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

Gordon — Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:57 pm

Author: Gordon

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:57 pm

Any forum members here from Tibet? Where sticking your tongue out is considered a very honourable form of greeting.

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:27 am

Author: nelz

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:27 am

I'm already too close to Wigan for comfort

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

Erin — Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:04 am

Author: Erin

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:04 am

Like Wigan?

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:26 am

Author: nelz

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:26 am

Far, far awaye

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

Nigel — Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 am

Author: Nigel

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 am

nelz wrote:

The olde wayes are the beste wayes

Where do you want to go today ?

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 am

Author: nelz

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:43 am

Sounds more like Bush the Lesser :0

--
A preposition is something you should not end a sentence with.

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

M-Saunders — Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:40 am

Author: M-Saunders

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:40 am

"This is the sort of English up with which I will not put!"

-- Winston Churchill

M

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:12 am

Author: nelz

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:12 am

towy71 wrote:

English is constantly evolving and long may it do so

Thou is entitled to thine own opinion, even if it sucketh.

The olde wayes are the beste wayes

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

alloydog — Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:58 am

Author: alloydog

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:58 am

P-lease, it is "What is this?"
"Pedants corner?", and
"It is not considered correct to poke your tongue out."

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

towy71 — Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:15 am

Author: towy71

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:15 am

what is this? Pedants corner
it is not considered correct to poke your tongue out
English is constantly evolving and long may it do so

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:58 pm

Author: nelz

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:58 pm

"I opened three e-mail messages", which will inevitably become contracted to "I opened three emails", in the same way that "text messages" has become "texts". Even the OED has listed text as a verb for at least three years, it's in my 2002 edition.

The OED also uses Internet and lists both email and e-mail. Of course, the OED lists what is in use, not what is considered correct.

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

Erin — Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:57 pm

Author: Erin

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:57 pm

I agee with nelz with the correct usage being Internet and e-mail. My question is therefore, how do we feed it back to LXF? I am not deliberatly picking on the Beagle (LXF 70) article but it is a wonderful example of PPE (p!ss poor English) with respect to the subject.

Surely, rather than "I opened three emails the other day." the sentence should read "When reading my e-mail I opened three messages the other day."?

Cheers Erin.

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

nelz — Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:21 pm

Author: nelz

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:21 pm

The Internet is a proper name. it is not a generic referring to any collection of computers, such as a network, but a specific entity. As such, it is a proper name and should be capitalised. The is not an article in this case, but part of the name. It is "The Internet" as opposed to "an internet".

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

guy — Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:09 pm

Author: guy

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:09 pm

Standard English grammar is to capitalise proper names, but not nouns. the word "the" may be used to preface a noun, but not a proper name (except to distinguish which "John Smith" one is talking about - "The particular John Smith who ate Freddie Starr.") Note that a name may include "The" (capital T) as in "The Dog and Duck."
As such, the grammatically correct usage would be "the internet". The accepted usage of "the Internet" is irregular, so one may refer to "the internet" whenever one wishes to set a trap for a pedant.

email or emails? Generally, the collective "mail" should be used.
However, unlike snail mail the word is sometimes used to refer to an individual message: one might say "I opened an email the other day," but never ""I opened a (snail) mail the other day." In this context, one should use "emails" to refer to several messages, as: "I opened three emails the other day."

Re: Email, emails, Internet or internet.

M0PHP — Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:48 pm

Author: M0PHP

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:48 pm

According to wikipedia, it is 'Internet and 'e-mail'