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PostPosted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Builing from scratch... Advice needed Reply with quote

Advice needed.

A local shop is offering some parts I need for my new pc. All are boxed and new, but I'm thinking the price is a little high.

What I need is a standard size case, power supply ( they're recommending 750 watt), processor (prob i5) with heat sink, motherboard and graphics card (supporting dual monitor setup and normal gaming).

They are offering:

i5 3330 3.0 ghz 140
Asrock B75 motherboard DDR3 45
nVidia 640 1gb DDR5 90
Atx case standard 30
750 watt psu 30

Total 335

Can anyone post links to similar or better spec at lower price on ebuyer please? I can build, but am worried about buying incompatible parts. I don't mind buying some stuff from them and other stuff from the shop.

Ta xx

**edit**

I already have a pair of seagate 500gb hd, 16gb DDR3 (2Xmatched 4gb, a 4gb and a matched pair of 2gb), a dvd drive and a few other bits n bobs.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO It's not a great deal you could find a better one on-line. Have a look at ebay or pcspecialist. For a few quid more you could get the i5 4670. I don't know much about AS Rock. I tend to stick with Asus/MSI. I doubt a mobo at that price will have sata/usb 3 though.

Have a look at the specs on this one and it's a quid cheaper.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/INTEL-i5-4670-Quad-Core-3-4Ghz-2GB-250GB-NVIDIA-GT630-Gaming-PC-Desktop-/321360561839?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopPCs&hash=item4ad29506af[/url]
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 750 watt power supply seems a bit excessive for that set-up. But then again 30 for a 750W supply is cheap. Presumably it's a generic type? I always worry a bit about the reliability of non-branded supplies but that's probably just me. Other people say they're fine.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, money spent on a good quality power supply with plenty of spare capacity is money well spent. I've had cheap power supplies blow up, and it's not a pleasant experience. And it's not just a question of reliability, although that's important of course; it's also the stability, smoothness and accuracy of the output voltages. Power supply glitches can cause the PC to misbehave, and are very difficult to diagnose.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

roseway wrote:
In my opinion, money spent on a good quality power supply with plenty of spare capacity is money well spent.


Ah, so not just me then Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 2:23 pm    Post subject: Building from scratch... Advice needed Reply with quote

First part of my pc build bought. Cost 35 against which I part exed an eatx server motherboard for 25.

I have not been able to use the server board myself and got it for free. Sweet.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jarry wrote:
A 750 watt power supply seems a bit excessive for that set-up. But then again 30 for a 750W supply is cheap. Presumably it's a generic type? I always worry a bit about the reliability of non-branded supplies but that's probably just me. Other people say they're fine.


No always get a good power supply. I've had one go wrong and fried almost everything including two hard-drives and motherboard. Also debugging the psu as the problem (it started with intermittent faults) was difficult.... or indeed too late in my case!!

I think money well spent on the motherboard will give you more choice to up-grade and install more hardware in the future. On that note make sure your case will be big enough for the GPU you decide upon. A big case will allow obviously more room to add extra hardware such as hard-drives but also aids in the cooling. I would also do research on your cooling. Large quiet fans will be more tolerable in the long term believe me.

As you have probably noticed I have not been specific on brands or models as I believe the research that you do yourself will greatly increase your knowledge of system building. However as mentioned by purplepenguin above, I also rate Asus motherboards as being very good Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers. I have already decided to switch to an Asus motherboard. Just need to find out which models are compatible with the i5...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. Because of advice given here and elsewhere, I've decided I'm probably gonna buy this processor.

http://www.ebuyer.com/538192-intel-core-i5-4440-3-10ghz-socket-1150-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80646i54440?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=COusr8aozL0CFWjKtAod8DgA0g


Can anyone help me pick out a decent enough ASUS motherboard and power supply from the same site to go with it please? The old socket 1150 / haswell thingy has me confused. I don't want to end up with a motherboard I can't use.

I need it to support up to 4x4GB DDR3 RAM, a reasonable graphics card (prob 1-2 GB nVidia), 2+ hard disks, DVD drive (both SATA), and I need to use up 2 PCI-E bays for my USB 2.0 card and my fan card. My case has 4 fans atm that'll need power as well.

Use? Dual boot Win7 (for games like Bioshock and FarCry 3) and Linux Mint for everything else. Budget? 75 really, but I need to keep both under 100 total. I don't mind paying a bit more if I can get better stability.

Ta.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok. My budget is in. 245 for the moment. So I'm gonna get the motherboard, processor and power supply and save getting the graphics card for later.

I'm looking at getting these:

http://www.ebuyer.com/538192-intel-core-i5-4440-3-10ghz-socket-1150-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80646i54440

http://www.ebuyer.com/517867-h87m-e-s1150-h87-matx-vga-snd-gln-u3-sata-6gb-s-ddr3-in-90mb0f50-m0eay0

Can someone with more brainpower than me please check that these are 100% compatible? If so, can anyone recommend a decent enough power supply I can get with the 50 odd quid I've got left?

Ta. xx
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPDATE TIME!!!

My new machine is finally on the way. I currently have:

1: Vantage Gamer case
2: Asus H87M-E motherboard
3: Intel Core i5 4440 3.10GHz
4: 2x 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
5: 2x Seagate 500GB HD
6: DVD drive (forget the make)

On way:

7: Coolermaster GM-Series 750W Semi Modular 80+ Bronze Power Supply
8: Gigabyte GTX 650 2GB GDDR5 VGA Dual DVI HDMI PCI-E Graphics Card

Very Happy

Thanks people! You rule! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good! I was about to offer you some parts free of charge, but as you're sorted now they'll stay here then Razz
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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2014 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Very Happy

I was doing great with it all until this morning. I went to order track the PSU to see whether it was coming today instead of tomorrow (ebuyer have a habit of delivering early). There's no record of the order! I have a record of my paypal payment, but the order number isn't recognised! Mad

So I'm waiting until they open at 9 to shout at someone!

****edit****

I just got through. The PSU is out for dispatch today. No-one seems to know why the order isn't listed on the track site. Confused
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