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paganpenguin · Joined: Fri May 13, 2005 10:38 pm Posts: 1

I use both, often at the same time to do (almost) the same thing. Redundancy or just me being a complete nut?
For net based work, it has to be GUI, otherwise Susan would remove various parts of my anatomy while I sleep, and show the me pickled evidence the next day. Saying this, six months Susan would have killed me if I told her to "open a terminal and type in <whatever>". Now, she generally defaults to this approach when I'm about to explain something to her. Which is strange as I'm using Mandriva LE 2005 and everything she needs I've configured to be done via the GUI (even downloading the photos from my camera now works through FLPhoto... previously I had to manually download via CLI using gphoto2).
As a web developer I use a variety of tools, although I do default to CLI vim when I start building web structures, only after a basic shell of a page is built do I switch to Quanta+. Each interface has its advantages and disadvantages, so I have both open to use all plus points Wink

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Nomen_Luni · Joined: Fri May 27, 2005 2:30 am Posts: 1

I have my Linux box set up for console login. I only use X-Windows for apps that require it like Gimp etc. Everything else is done through Bash.

logandi · Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:49 pm Posts: 7

I boot into gnome, because it looks pretty, then use a terminal for almost everything (never figured out how to edit video on the command line).
I'd probably be able to do some things more quickly with a gui, but can't be bothered learning which programs to use.
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skecs · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2005 4:56 am Post subject:

Hi nelz,

nelz: - "None of the tools you mention need a specific window manager, but Webmin has the huge advantage that it doesn't need X either, so you can use it on a server."

(I just got tired of waiting for "Quote Selected" to actually add the quote)

I know that you can use these tools from different graphical environments and from the command line. What I was trying to say is that these tools need to be integrated into a a standard configuration package that can manage all distributions. Using apps like alien you can use apt on RPM based systems, the Xen virtualisation in LXF67 also looks like a possible solution to having a standard GUI configuration interface in the background as a virtualised OS maybe?. The reason I stated X based was so that, as long as X was installed, a single command could start X and the configuration interface. Quiting would take it back to the command line.

This would enable quick GUI config on servers, remote graphical config on workstations & servers, configuration of X and input devices (like Sax2, etc), and would quickly enable admins and support staff to access a configuration tool regardless of the distibution installed. This would help standardise certification at the lower levels and still allow for "specialised" certification at a higher level. The distribution managers could add their preferred modules (you wouldn't need the Gnome & KDE stuff in DSL, etc) but anyone could quickly find the familiar configuration interface.

I think this has been one area that Microsoft have standardised successfully since 1995 - everything to configure the system is configured in the Control Panel. Anything to control the server configuration is in Administrative Tools, but it is still lacking in the "WTF have you changed in the registry?" area.

Just some ideas to go forward with Linux.
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sandyman · Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2005 5:32 pm Posts: 53

Both. I'm a bit like M0PHP 'cept I use SSH and Webmin from an iMac

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bigbee · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:04 am Post subject:

my home-made servers (debian) have no X installed.
On my laptop and desktops I run KDE (SuSE 9.2) which would be a shame not to run in graphical mode (used for non server purposes) (try enemy territory in the CL :p )
On my collection of compaq 4131T's laptop I use the graphical mode for instant messaging and CL for reading mail, IRC, configging

My conclusion: I couldn't miss both
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rayburn · Joined: Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:56 pm Posts: 5

I use both, having initially been completely foxed by the CLI, I now use it whenever possible, as it's so fast for most things. I think that a lot of new users like me would probably take the same route, i.e. learn the CLI after having learnt about Linux on the GUI. Oh, and I too love Midnight Commander as a file manager.