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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Ho hum, well, seeing as no one else has seen fit to mention it, perhaps I ought to point out that there is a new FSF-approved Linux distribution available.
It's called gNewSense and you can read all about it from that link.
It's aimed at those who want the eye-stingingly pure, whiter-than-white FLOSS experience. So don't expect any multimedia, plugin and 3D desktop bells and whistles.
I wonder how long before someone comes up with a howto on getting all the extra bits to work with it (i.e. replacing what they have laboriously removed): people a contrary beings.

I am thinking of developing my own distro called gNuisance Linux, that has features designed to p1ss off as many people as possible, whether they be dedicated FLOSSers, or proprietary eye-candy junkies. It might just catch on with the masochistic tendency in both camps.

<cough>Slackware users!</cough>

Who said that?!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Rhakios wrote:
I am thinking of developing my own distro called gNuisance Linux, that has features designed to p1ss off as many people as possible, whether they be dedicated FLOSSers, or proprietary eye-candy junkies. It might just catch on with the masochistic tendency in both camps.


Nice idea, but are you prepared for the inevitable whingeing when 1sf (troll) tries to install it ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:58 am    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Fair enough to the FSF -- they do great work -- but they really have a bad way with names, don't they? gNewSense? HURD? Andrew, our production chap, just loves it when we explain what HURD means in the magazine. He's constantly astounded by the invention in that double-recursive acronym.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

The name GNewSense makes me think of Richard Stallman sitting at a desk with a crab in front of him, saying: "I'm talking Gnonce Sense. We at the FSF have more genetic material in common with crabs than with human beings. There's no actual proof for this, but it IS scientific fact."
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Rhakios wrote:
I am thinking of developing my own distro called gNuisance Linux


Knuisance, surely? Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

guy wrote:
Rhakios wrote:
I am thinking of developing my own distro called gNuisance Linux


Knuisance, surely? Twisted Evil


Wash your mouth out for your disloyalty to the GNU!

It will feature the K(rappy)D(esktop)E(nvironment) though. Which will differ from your usual KDE in that all the really useful configuration options will be present, but greyed out.

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My other thought is to develop Gnubile Linux, for young ladies who have reached that age and are of a certain disposition. Sadly as I don't know any, I've no idea what features to offer Sad Still, the developers of D(irty)O(ld)M(an) Linux have offered me all the help I might need if I do decide to go ahead.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Rhakios wrote:
My other thought is to develop Gnubile Linux, for young ladies who have reached that age and are of a certain disposition. Sadly as I don't know any, I've no idea what features to offer Sad


Surely that's an easy one - lots of eye candy eating up all the CPU time so you can't get any useful work done Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

I'll bow to your expertise in this matter Nigel.

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Really, it's terrible the way this thread has got off the politically very important topic of GNewSense and onto some nonsense I tacked onto the end of my post in a fit of sarcasm. Still, I have only myself to blame Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Back on topic... Groklaw carried the announcement a few days ago. PJ, as expected, is all in favour, but many posters were asking why go to all this trouble when Debian is about as politically correct as you can get Smile
The consensus seems to be that they want the ease of installation, setup & use of *buntu with the untaintedness of Debian, and gNewSense is supposed to give just that.

It will be interesting to see just how well it works out.

Is the FSF finally admitting that the Hurd won't be ready until Heck freezes over ?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:19 am    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Well, we all know that Hell is at least partly frozen, so the rest might follow, but now Heck has to freeze as well?! I am not aware of any knowledgeable accounts of Heck, perhaps someone from the forums could elucidate its thermal condition?
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Yes Nigel, I was aware of the purpose of gNewSense, though I appreciate you making it clear for everyone here. However, this is no doubt what gave rise to my sarcastic inclination. Those who need an easy-to-use installer are unlikely to be happy with a distro stripped of all the whizzy bits, while those who will be interested in it are quite capable of disabling those Debian repositories which provide the naughty-but-nice things of which they disapprove.
I must try downloading it some time, just to see if I can get all the proprietary stuff working on it, but not this weekend.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Rhakios wrote:
Ho hum, well, seeing as no one else has seen fit to mention it, perhaps I ought to point out that there is a new FSF-approved Linux distribution available.
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Rest assured, Rhakios, now you have mentioned it, various other people (one step behind you as usual) will leap in to tell us all about it.

It makes me wonder though, do we really need yet another distro? How can we encourage disaffected Windows users to switch to Linux when they suddenly realise that you don't just switch to "Linux". They first have to contend with a confusing array of distros spread before them.

It may be just me but I have a sneaky feeling that Ubuntu is rapidly becoming synonymous with Linux and this is certainly what I would recommend to newcomers.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:56 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

So here is this new, completely FSF distro. No access to 3D acceleration, media codecs, free but propritory programs... does the Mozilla licence qualify for this?

We had a spell a little while ago where the PCLinuxOS forums were getting flamed by people accusing the distro of not being "pure" Free Software.

Making Linux accessible to newcomers isn't about theoretical debates about different licences, it's about making it usable. PCLinuxOS, Ubuntu, Mepis and others are trying to go down that road. From what I see, "Nuisance" linux seems to be just the opposite, a distracting festival of intellectual self-abuse!

(1sf (troll) where are you when I need you?)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

One could argue that starting with a "tainted" distro and hacking out the impure parts means your distro is still less than pure. What's wrong with using an FSF-friendly distro, like Debian, as the starting point?

It strikes me as a pointless exercise.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

More news on my own gNuisance Linux distribution. The K(rappy) D(esktop) E(nvironment) will have all the icons labelled along the lines of "Your Computer", "Your Documents", "Your Pictures" and the same for music, browser, wastebin and so on.
Originally, I was going to call them "The Documents" etc., until I thought, why waste people's time with three useless, futile and time wasting extra letters prepended to the front of everything, when I could do the same with four!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: gNewSense Linux Reply with quote

Marrea wrote:

Rest assured, Rhakios, now you have mentioned it, various other people (one step behind you as usual)


That isn't a knife in your hand is it, Marrea? Can't quite make it out looking over my shoulder. Smile

nelz wrote:

What's wrong with using an FSF-friendly distro, like Debian, as the starting point?


Or how about Morphix, it seems made for the job and comes with a friendly installer very similar to Ubuntu's.
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