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jjmac · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:47 am Post subject:

Rhakios wrote:
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More than just hyphenation, jj. Punctuation, spelling and idiom are also slightly changed.
It's only because 1sf (troll) is such a sloppy reader that he can't differentiate between our totally distinct styles.
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Ah yes, the distinction of styles, we can only be limited by the bounds of our variances, and the breadth of our spelling checkers.

Besides, it can be hard enough as it is when a person has their eyes at the front of their head, let alone on the side.

Oh yes ... the topic ! , ummmmmmmm

FVWM is where it's at -=- of course said Ed the horse.

Smile

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Rhakios · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:56 pm Post subject:

jjmac · Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject:

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hyphenation
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hmmm, ok Smile

(excuse, excuse)

ahhh, yes but ... thats how 86 wouldn't say it. He would use 'hyphenisation' i'm sure, (i think)

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sometimes I think it ought to be called the Konqueror Desktop Environment
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That could have unexpected side effects though, like
<cough> The IE Desk Top Environment </cough>, oh yes, thats right, it has already been done. Still ... after trying to compile mono over the last month ... i finally gave up and just used the 'bin' installer from the dvd. It has been a while since i had to face such extensive DE related library requirements, just to support a single package/suit build. And there was only so far i was willing to go with shenanigans like that. It was looking like it would take the whole gnome bundle just for that. Even if the app is designed for interactive web based project interaction, it should still be usable in a 'local' context. If it was truely modular based along Unix lines. It would be just that a lot of the facilities were greyed out due to the support not being compiled in. But still usable. Now i've got more than enough of gnome installed than i really want, but i'll leave it as it will probable crop up again again sometime. It isn't a good design model, and not one that is essentially necessary. It tends to go against the whole Unix like idea of 'modularity'.

Curiously, in a different vein, it was also one of the main reasons the later Reiser FS was rejected from main line (along with other reasons). In that it duplicated existing vfs facilities. And so presented the possibility of becoming a monolithic beast in its' own right, with the implied security vulnerability potential, along with maintenance issues... due to that over internalised dependence.

Being completely distinct from any of the obvious benefits that individual applications posses though. Some what ironic in that sense from my view. It is the result of a belief in tied (self intergrated) systems being 'best'. Which tends to be exclusive rather than inclusive and so creats favour, which was the essential problem with the multix project anyway. It fragments, and should have been better avoided. I think the same degree of developer recognition and business could still have been achieved with out all that.

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konqueror
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I couldn't live with out 'filerunner' my self Smile

, so i know what you mean there. I wonder at times too (usually all the time), who's running who, the app or the person ... i think 'filerunner' runs me mostly.

I've nearly completed all my out standing tasks at present too, cleaning up detritus and moving partitions around, so i will have better time to spend over the rest of this year to look further into kde, and maybe gnome. As long as i can reduce the menu bloat with out losing the item, with out an over involved recovery process being required. Which it seems i can due to a recent hint., along with having found the equiv of fvwm's 'EdgeResistance' facility (strangely called window boarders ... or something, can't quite remember), something else i can not live with out, i'll be able to function there. Then i can focus all my digs at the underlying functional duplications that cause tie in, and will eventually lead to the lose of civil rights, human dignity, ethics, and lead eventually to overall world slavery. Which i don't think we all really want really. And try not to upset kde types to much in the process as well. Someones gotta do it, after all Smile

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nelz · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:09 am Post subject:

Rhakios · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject:

Hmm, I tend to think of 1sf (troll) as a binary blob. Not sure what this has to do with configurability, but I thought I'd mention it. Smile

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towy71 · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject:

More like a single cell amoeba Wink

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nelz · Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject:

Binary as in having only two states? With 1sf (troll) that would be confused and... err... don't tell me... I'll think of the other one... GOT IT! More confused Smile

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