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tiddler · Joined: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:00 pm Posts: 7

Phorm is illegal:
http://www.fipr.org/080317icoletter.html

Sign the petition:
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

nelz · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:37 am Post subject:

That's an interesting and well presented argument. Especially the point about invading the privacy of those hosting the web site or communicating through it, which means even an opt-in by the ISP's customer would not be enough.
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ScottAS · Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:34 am Posts: 49

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nelz · Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:

I'd just ask them outright, do they have their own servers and infrastructure? Of course, even if they are independent now, you have no guarantee they won't be taken over in future. As for BT intercepting your data, it's just a binary stream at their level, while it may be possible in theory, in practice it would be all but impossible.
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Ram · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:08 pm Post subject:

Was Rebecca using BT last summer. Read Mike's reply here
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nelz · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject:

That's done using cookie tracking on the ad servers. Every time you load an ad on a page, it tracks the type of page containing it and gets a profile of the sites you visit. However, because it is not done by your ISP, it does not contain any information to identify you personally, and it can be avoided by not loading ads or by rejecting cookies from ad servers. Phorm is far more intrusive.
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ScottAS · Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:34 am Posts: 49

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nelz · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject:

planet.net.uk is owned by Energis Squared, the Internet arm of Energis, a large telco (Energis were part of Powergen and use fibre optics running over the National Grid). So it looks like your ISP is using Energis's network and their transparent proxies too.
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Ram · Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject:

Also have a look at this
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ollie · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject:

Dutch_Master · LXF regular Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:49 am Posts: 2354

Even worse: that error is from an IIS server Sad

Btw Ollie, there's a typo:

ollie · Posted: Sat May 31, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject:

badger_fruit · Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:53 pm Posts: 8

the question of phorm being legal or otherwise in my opinion is irrelevent; if the ISPs are going to do this then it should be an OPT-IN system, as it is, it's an opt-OUT system. I have already written to my ISP (Virgin) and told them I wish to opt-out, they replied with a standard response of "it's not in effect yet blah blah, we'll notify users before we go ahead blah blah".

Another example of corporate greed doing what's in the best interest of shareholders instead of the users.