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sentient_one
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Mandriva 2009 the one? Reply with quote

Just installed. Sound (sound blaster usb) detected. Nvidia graphics card detected and set up. RT73 usb wireless easily set up with wep hex encryption. Windows drives detected and mp3s instantly played.

It's KDE4. Not too struck that one seems to need to go to tools, system . . . dolphin to find windows drives, but all in all, as personal desktop OS looks very good indeed.

Mandriva? Ubuntu? Sabayon?

There are always the others for those who like typing text into black boxes
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AdamW



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to hear you're having a positive experience so far!

I actually agree with you on the KDE 4 desktop - when I finally got to testing it out on a clean install a few days ago, the same thing struck me, that there's no obvious way on the default desktop to just browse around your system in a file manager, which most people expect to have. But it was too late to change it by then...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamW wrote:
there's no obvious way on the default desktop to just browse around your system in a file manager, which most people expect to have. But it was too late to change it by then...

I haven't found an obvious way to do anything in KDE4 (I'm running it in SUSE11.0 at the moment). It looks nice, but how do you use it? Confused It presents the most unintuitive user interface I have ever come across.

However, that is nothing really to do with Mandriva! The latest version of this distro sounds really good and I shall look forward to downloading it at some stage soon. Also really pleased to see that it plays nicely with the Acer Aspire One which I am seriously thinking about getting.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"how do you use it?"

I don't, I use GNOME. =)

There's some user guides on KDE.org, though, I think. Take a look at them.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to drill deep though Wink someone posted a few links in the help area this week after i suggested he look there for guidance.
Edit: here is the thread http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8708

Enjoy the Choice Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lok1950 wrote:
You have to drill deep though Wink someone posted a few links in the help area this week after i suggested he look there for guidance.
Edit: here is the thread http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=8708


lok1950 (and Adam)

Many thanks. These links certainly look like the sort of thing I need. I also see that Graham Morrison has an article on "Tuning KDE 4.1" in LXF112, which I received this morning.

And people grumble about the new format of Microsoft Office 2007. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marrea wrote:
I haven't found an obvious way to do anything in KDE4 (I'm running it in SUSE11.0 at the moment). It looks nice, but how do you use it? Confused It presents the most unintuitive user interface I have ever come across.


You mean even less intuitive than Windows? Wink

Perhaps the KDE developers are trying to adopt the MS technique (and I use the term very loosely) of changing everything around between versions for the sake of being different! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Successfully installed 2009 Free under VMWare Workstation 6.5. Only a couple of little glitches along the way: during the install process the Preparing Bootloader screen stayed for an awefully long time, while processor usage went up to 100%, I was on the point of thinking that I would have to kill the thing, when it decided to resume normal procedure Confused hmm. The other thing is that during the install process and subsequently, update fails with:
Unable to add medium, errors reported
... retrieving failed: aria 2 failed: exited with 1
problems reading synthesis file of medium "Main Updates (Official2009.0-2)"

I assume this is down to there not being any updates yet, and thus no synthesis file.

After installing kernel-devel-latest and dependencies all modules for VMWare tools compiled and installed just fine. The only trouble along the way with that one was that opening the mounted VMWare tools iso in Dolphin was extremely slow and processor intensive, so I killed it and used Konqueror - I can see that happening a lot more often given past experience of Dolphin.
I think I'll have to read the latest issue's article on KDE4 before I decide whether I can stand it, or if I will have to migrate to XFCE (my second favourite DE after KDE3.5.x).

Next, I must get around to trying it out on my EeePC 900, which has been running 2008 Spring fairly successfully up to now.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the initial feedback, Rhakios.

I downloaded 2009 One (rather than Free) today and will probably do a native hard drive install within the next few days. Your comment about the "Preparing Bootloader" screen alarms me somewhat (you may remember I had problems with this particular aspect of installation in 2008 Free). However, forewarned is forearmed - as they say. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pwbrum61 wrote:
You mean even less intuitive than Windows? Wink


Funnily enough I never had any problems moving from 3.1 to 98 to XP to Vista, nor did I have any major problems adapting to Office 2007. It just took me a little while to find out where some items were in the latter.

But KDE4. Rolling Eyes I just sit there looking at the desktop and think What the b****y h*** am I supposed to do with this!

Hey, ho. Once I have studied the various links given above and read Graham's article, no doubt all will become clear. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marrea wrote:
Your comment about the "Preparing Bootloader" screen alarms me somewhat (you may remember I had problems with this particular aspect of installation in 2008 Free). However, forewarned is forearmed - as they say. Wink


Yes, this was an odd one, Mandriva seems to install certain packages after the main install, and I assume this is what was going on, plus it was preparing a configuration to propose for the bootloader. I can't imagine why it hung for so long and used so many processor cycles, but the actual Bootloader installation section went just fine, all very Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I 'upgraded' my 701 from Mandriva 2008 to 2009 and it broke the poor little thing. I couldn't get another distro to boot so went for 2009 and it all works, sort of Wink I quite like the initial look of KDE4.1 though and some of the stuff does make sense so I can see where they're wanting to go with it. It is far less cluttered than the previous KDE desktop! Wireless seems to be a bit flaky though and it doesn't show my wireless even when details are entered manually, a known problem according to the errata. Xfce is only an install away though...

But I'm happy with it so far!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the 3rd Linux distro i've tried and for a N00b it's really good and worked for me out of the box.
I tried Ubuntu once before but didnt get wireless access then when I tried the latest distro on my new rig it didnt want to install.
So I tried Freespire but didnt work with my wireless or soundcard.

Read Linux format and found out about Mandriva.
Installed and got my wireless working (WPA encypted) with ndiswrapper and I have sound.
I now have everything except my printer. but I'll get there.

It takes getting used to but I'm liking Mandriva
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loaded Mandriva One 2009 today and am pleased to report there were no problems with the bootloader installation - no hanging, no MBR being overwritten. Smile

After the initial reboot I too received an error similar to the one experienced by Rhakios:

Error: Unable to add medium, errors reported: … retrieving failed: aria 2 failed: exited with 1. Problem reading synthesis file of medium “Non-free Updates (official2009.0-18 )"

However it then went on to update rpmdrake and urpmi, followed by 12 other packages, so I assume it was the Non-free Updates only which were affected.

Ran into the same problem with Nvidia Display Settings as I did in 2008 Spring, ie I was unable to load the X server display configuration page until I had changed "false" to "true" in the "DynamicTwinView" line in xorg.conf

Other than that, everything looks pretty good so far. Very impressive.

Now to try and master KDE4. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tell you what Marrea, you send me your Main Updates, and I'll send you my Non-free Updates. Wink
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