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ZebCarnell · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:40 am Post subject:

Yes I picked up mine from a friend second hand Wink

Bought it off him.
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M-Saunders · Moderator Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:14 pm Posts: 2881

It's worth noting, for those who've not tried QEMU recently, that it now has an accelerater module. This essentially makes it a virtual machine like VMware rather than an emulator -- so it's much, much faster. I do a lot of OS testing via QEMU and it rocks Smile

http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/qemu-accel.html

Mike

A-Wing · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:58 am Post subject:

Has bochs got any better recently? I haven't tried it in a very long time.
Win4Lin is a good alternative to VMWare if you are looking for a commercial package. As far as I am aware if you are the member of a LUG your LUG admin should be able to get you a discount on it (was true a couple of years ago when I applied for our LUG to be part of the program)
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nelz · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:02 am Post subject:

Win4lin only runs Windows, so it's not really an alternative to VMWare/Qemu except for that one task.
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M-Saunders · Moderator Joined: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:14 pm Posts: 2881

Bochs development appears to be stalled, although I haven't checked the mailing lists. From what some hobbyist OS devs have said, though, Bochs may be slower but it's better for debugging.

M

A-Wing · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:10 am Post subject:

Andy · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:16 am Post subject:

Ho hum - ATI driver support is available from livna.org - have a look at fedorafaq.org for more details.

I've used it and it is painless... UT2004 seems to fly Smile

Andy

nelz · Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:45 am Post subject:

I use it to run Linux on Linux most of the time. Xen is not suitable for distro testing as it requires modified kernels. It also has the great advantage that you can suspend a running machine, much like suspending a laptop, so firing up a particular distro to check something is much faster. I have around a dozen VMs suspended and ready to fire up in a few seconds, only one of them is Windows.
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ZebCarnell · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 3:58 am Post subject:

VMware has suspend as well Wink

. It would be good if VMware had DirectX support included. Then gamers could have Windows Running on Linux if they wanted to play their fave games that havent yet been made for Linux. But then there is always Cedega.
Is there another VM program that has DirectX support?
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nelz · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 9:18 am Post subject:

I know. Like I just said, I use it all the time Smile

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ZebCarnell · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:04 am Post subject:

Oh I thought you were Talking about Xen.... you have it all in one paragraph without mentioning VMware lolz.
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nelz · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:16 am Post subject:

If you read it in its context of a reply to A-Wing's question, it makes perfect sense. When dumped in with other posts, it's less clear. Another reason I prefer mailing lists to forums.
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ZebCarnell · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:20 am Post subject:

I use quoting when I can. That helps. I dont like mailing lists too much. It seems to turn to spam after the 254th email.
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nelz · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 10:58 am Post subject:

Only if they allow all and sundry to post without subscribing, but the same problem afflicted this forums. i can't remember the last time I saw spam on a mailing list.
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