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Ubuntu will go to base 10 units...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Ubuntu will go to base 10 units... Reply with quote

Hi all...

Not sure if anyone is interested but........

http://www.neowin.net/news/ubuntu-implements-units-policy-will-switch-to-base-10-units-in-future-release
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds fine to me, as long as it's consistent so people know what they're looking at.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First the Mac like close, minimise and maximise buttons in 10.4, and now base-10 units like Mac.

I really can't understand why they are doing this.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never understood as a kid why the olds had so much trouble with millimeters, centimeters etc Couldn't appreciate the whole decimalisation, shillings etc changes they had to get used to.

"Sweet its going to be a balmy 25c tomorrow"

"What's that in real money?" was the reply.

Well, I guess I'm going to start to have a basic idea of the annoyance.

Then again, its just a case of remembering..... wonder if all the apps, such as the media burning apps, and drive partition apps will all get sorted together....
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinso wrote:
First the Mac like close, minimise and maximise buttons in 10.4, and now base-10 units like Mac.

I really can't understand why they are doing this.


Made me think of this:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not Ubuntu's biggest fan, but they are doing the right thing here. The SI units are defined as powers of 10, not 2, so using k to represent 1024 is corrupting a standard. The current situation, where some use binary and some use decimal units is confusing. To take Nordle's currency analogy, it like some quoting prices with VAT and some without, but not telling you which.

If you want to represent 1024, use the correct prefix, kibi, kilo has been defined as 1000 for hundreds of years. The confusion only arises because this situation was allowed to continue for far too long. All power to Ubuntu for taking a stand on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelz: I understand, but why base 10?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because that's what SI metric units have been defined in for hundreds of years. kilo has meant 100 since Adam was a lad, why corrupt it to mean something else because you can't be bothered to think up your own prefix?

How would you feel if your employer decided to make an hour 66 minutes, but still expect you to work the same number of hours for the same pay? What time would you turn up when someone said "see you in half an hour"?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hrm it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelz wrote:
... kilo has meant 100 since Adam was a lad ...


Confused kilo = 1000 since the late 1600's Wink but if you want to start your own measuring system that's fine Razz

It will just bring storage into line with manufactures' hard drive specifications. Computers have used binary because early computers with valves, and still do today, use electricity to represent everything as on or off. Perhaps this is getting ready for quantum computing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ollie...

> Perhaps this is getting ready for quantum computing :D

I wonder how many quantum corruptions will occur with
the transition?

;oD
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinso wrote:
~ why base 10?


Look at your hands, how many digits do you see? Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ten, which is why I can count to 1023 on them Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi nelz...

> Ten, which is why I can count to 1023 on them :)

ROTFLMAO...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gn2 wrote:
Look at your hands, how many digits do you see? Smile


Yeah but as nelz points out, computers use binary Very Happy

And as crappy as my laptop may be, it doesn't need to use my fingers to count.
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