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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:32 am    Post subject: Buttons on the wrong side... Reply with quote

I was really put off by the window control buttons being moved. That is the sort of thing I have come to expect from Microsoft and Apple. Mentally composing a message to express my disgust. But after a few minutes of research, found this thread and several other sources explaining the easy ways to change it back. (I just reselected to one of my previously configured themes, and they were back on the right)

After I thought about it, I realized this is what is great about open source. They changed something, which pleases some, irritates others, but (unlike MS and Apple) they left a very easy way for us to have our own preference.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wyliecoyoteuk wrote:
there is hardware RAID, which has a dedicated controller and needs no drivers, software RAID which is run entirely in the OS and runs on standard Disk controllers, and software RAID on Motherboards that pretends to be hardware RAID, but needs a software driver to support it in the OS -fakeRAID.


I'm pretty sure hardware RAID requires drivers too. There is a risk of seeing the disks through the controller otherwise. And other problems, but I've defiantly experienced seeing the disks through the controller.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardware RAID requires no RAID drivers, they are in the controller's BIOS. The card presents the RAID array as a single disk. There is no way to access the individual disks except through the controller's management software. The only driver required for the OS is a SCSI-like driver to access the card.

Note I mentioned card, hardware RAID is rarely found on motherboards and never on consumer grade ones.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm talking about the extra RAID cards with the batteries on them too.

aacraid?
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of our RAID cards present the array as a single volume.

Their BIOS boots first, and they have their own dedicated controller hardware.
aacraid is the driver for the disk controller, in a similar way to an IDE controller needing a driver.

Software RAID sits on top of a standard IDE or SATA controller, and so does FakeRAID, except some of it is in firmware on the motherboard.

So, yes they need a driver, but their disk management is handled by their own BIOS and processor.
Whereas the software and fakeraid need software processing and CPU time to make standard BIOS chipset controllers behave like dedicated ones.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wyliecoyoteuk wrote:
All of our RAID cards present the array as a single volume.
Adaptec IIRC.
Their BIOS boots first.


Yes, but the driver is loaded at boot and prior to installation. I've had hardware RAID cards not supported in Linux not show any drives at all.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeeNukes wrote:
wyliecoyoteuk wrote:
All of our RAID cards present the array as a single volume.
Adaptec IIRC.
Their BIOS boots first.


Yes, but the driver is loaded at boot and prior to installation. I've had hardware RAID cards not supported in Linux not show any drives at all.
You are correct. I have had to install drivers in older RHEL installs on hardware raid (HP, IBM and Dell!)
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see edited post
Quick of the mark or what Razz

Should have been clearer.
No RAID drivers, only device drivers for hardware RAID.

or if you prefer no RAID management software.
The main difference is that the OS does not see the disks.
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PostPosted: Sun May 16, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just broke my golden rule. Instead of waiting 3 months after release, waited 2 weeks. Decided to ugrade xubuntu 9.10 to 10.04

Ooops.

Initially fine, everything went well. None of the grub issues that plagued early adopters.

But, cannot use thunar in detailed view, rendering it almost useless. Making it VERY irritating to use the desktop.

I thought, how is it possible to release with something so bad, I mean, how could it be missed.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exo/+bug/520118

It wasn't missed. In fact, its been around since beta1, 3 months!

The current simplest workarounds are to use ctrl+1,2,3 after each click to avoid the lockup. But this doesn't fix that the keyboard shortcuts of ctl+c +ctrl+v fail to work.
So really, its either used some hacked version of pcmanfm, or, as I've done, switch to single click activation. This takes some getting used to.

Not brilliant for an LTS release.

I don't think most Ubuntu users will be affected, just users of XFCE and related apps.
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried the workaround for Thunar over on the Debian User Forums?

edit > prefererences > behavior
set navigation to single click
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ollie wrote:
Have you tried the workaround for Thunar over on the Debian User Forums?

edit > prefererences > behavior
set navigation to single click


Try reading nordle's post again...
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: 10.04 - Install under 20m, startup under 15sec for Dell D610 Reply with quote

The subject says it all for me. I was gobsmacked. It even recognized my Novatel Wireless Mobile Broadband USB device with no issue or. To be fair I have not tried my wireless NIC but everything else worked fine. Even special key combinations for brightness
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who fancies a change from the crusty old beardies who usually advocate Linux (or in this case Ubuntu Linux) could do worse than have a look at this YouTube review.

Ahem, she does a few other Linuxy things too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I think Nixie is great.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, Nixie is cool. Most of her posts are funny, creative and laden with enough geekyness to make me not feel too pervy for adding her to the sub list.

To be honest, surprised not to see her snapped up by something like tech tv / revision3 etc
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