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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:44 am    Post subject: wordpress administration question Reply with quote

Hi there
I have a web server with LAMP and wordpress on it. I'm going to administer wordpress from a different host on the same LAN as the server(the server doesn't have X and desktop software on it). When you build a site, with wordpress, from a separate admin host what exactly is happening?. Do browser requests from the admin host go to the web server, then out to the Internet, then back to the web server, then the results get displayed back to the browser on the admin host?. Or does it work differently?. Will such a set up work automatically after the installation and basic configuration of LAMP and wordpress on the web server?.
Thank you very much for your time and any replies that i might get.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If both hosts are on the same LAN, the Internet is not involved at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you administer word press you connect to the sever in you web browser, like a normal website.

depending on how you go to the site, a number of things could happen.

If you connect to the server with its ip address or local hostname, and like nelz says, you won't go on to the interwebs. However if you connect to the full internet url (eg www.blabkabla.com) then the likely hood is that you will go out onto the internets then back in again (i believe) as the dns won't resolve to a local ip. However if you have your local dns set up so that www.bablabla.com resolves to the local ip then no internets is involved.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobthebob1234 wrote:
However if you connect to the full internet url (eg www.blabkabla.com) then the likely hood is that you will go out onto the internets then back in again (i believe) as the dns won't resolve to a local ip.


Usually you will hit the gateway/router from the LAN and be prompted to log in to that device. To prevent this your local DNS server, hosts file, etc would need to have an entry for the URL to a local IP Address.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The web server has wordpress installed on it. I can connect to my web server(get a dashboard page). However when i try and build the site i.e add plugins and themes i get a page that requires an ftp username and password. Why do i need an ftp connection if the themes and plugins aren't coming from the Internet, like i was told?.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IIRC an FTP connection is established with your PC to upload files from your PC to the server. They need to be transferred by some file transfer protocol and web servers usually use FTP. The login details are for the FTP account on the web server - usually the same account the site belongs too.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was playing around with wordpress I could just click install and it would automagically download the files. no ftp needed.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobthebob1234 wrote:
when i was playing around with wordpress I could just click install and it would automagically download the files. no ftp needed.


That's via the Internet from the Wordpress "repository" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which is much easier than running around with ftp.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had the odd FTP Username and Password issue with Wordpress when updating it in the past.

Issue was that the permissions on the folders were incorrect.

Look at this blog post:

http://www.thesishosting.com/topics/wordpress/wp-auto-updates-for-servers-requiring-777-permissions
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bobthebob1234 wrote:
which is much easier than running around with ftp.


Uhmm ... read the OP problem again. He didn't want to use the Internet to load the plugins (modules) and themes.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No i didn't mind using the Internet to download the plugins/themes. I just wanted to know how it is supposed to work in case anything was wrong(so that i'd understand and be able to fix it)
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