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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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wyliecoyoteuk wrote:
nope, risqué merely means suggestive, sweary means rude or objectionable.

Actually, that's not what swearing is - It's just that some people find it so


Again, wrong. Swearing is meant to be rude or objectionable, that is its main purpose.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wyliecoyoteuk wrote:

Again, wrong. Swearing is meant to be rude or objectionable, that is its main purpose.

Oh, dear, oh, dear

If people must quibble semantics then I suggest they don't do it with an ex English teacher

To swear

–verb (used without object)

1. to make a solemn declaration or affirmation by some sacred being or object, as a deity or the Bible.

2. to bind oneself by oath.

3. to give evidence or make a statement on oath.

4. to use profane oaths or language


Sticking with the meaning '4' ... (presumably the one you all prefer) ...


profane

–adjective

1. characterized by irreverence or contempt for god or sacred principles or things; irreligious.

2. not devoted to holy or religious purposes; unconsecrated; secular (opposed to sacred).

3. unholy; heathen; pagan: profane rites.

4. not initiated into religious rites or mysteries, as persons.

5. common or vulgar.


Sticking with the meaning '5' ... (presumably the one you all prefer) ...


vulgar

1. characterized by ignorance of or lack of good breeding or taste: vulgar ostentation.

2. indecent; obscene; lewd: a vulgar work; a vulgar gesture.

3. crude; coarse; unrefined: a vulgar peasant.

4. of, pertaining to, or constituting the ordinary people in a society: the vulgar masses.

5. current; popular; common: a vulgar success; vulgar beliefs.

6. spoken by, or being in the language spoken by, the people generally; vernacular: vulgar tongue.

7. lacking in distinction, aesthetic value, or charm; banal; ordinary: a vulgar painting.


Sticking with the meaning '2' ... (presumably the one you all prefer) ... if you examine the meanings of the words 'obscene', 'indecent', 'lewd', you will find that they are circular in reference, being synonyms


So, let's go with ...


obscene

–adjective

1. offensive to morality or decency; indecent; depraved: obscene language.

2. causing uncontrolled sexual desire.

3. abominable; disgusting; repulsive.


And morality, I'm afraid, is in the eye of the beholder - It's relative

You may use Old English words in order to achieve the effect of being rude and/or objectionable

Others, however, will be far more offended by a drawing of Mohammed

So ... no, not wrong ... just not your interpretation of the term
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyway ... Bored of this nonsense now

If you're not discussing Roozz then, whatever it is you are discussing, I'm not discussing it
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do any of those definitions you quoted define risque and swearing to be the same?

An ex English teacher ought to know better, unless the inability to differentiate between different words is the reason for the ex part.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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reason for the ex part.

is prolly cos you were rubbish and didn't know what you were talking about Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crude and coarse covers swearing adequately! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Crude and coarse covers swearing adequately! Rolling Eyes

well said old boy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who else could provoke us into leaping to 1sf (troll)'s defence? Surprised
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've spent years honing my technique Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that a euphemism? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelz wrote:
Is that a euphemism? Laughing

you know it Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only I knew what yoofermizzam meant... ;o}
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

euphemism
- noun
1. the substitution of an agreeable or inoffensive expression for one that may offend or suggest something unpleasant; also : the expression so substituted


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/euphemism
You can click on agreeable and inoffensive yourself!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, an ex-english teacher can't be expected to know the meaning of a French word, I suppose.

risque means chance or risk

risqué means hazardous, risky or coquettish (i.e. closely bordering on the vulgar, but not crossing the line).

Nous savons tous combien cela devient risqué de faire quelque chose d'aussi simple que de travailler sur notre ordinateur. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you on about?
Risqué is the third studio album by American R&B band Chic, released on Atlantic Records in 1979, the same year that Bernard Edwards and Nile Rodgers wrote and produced Sister Sledge's massively successful We Are Family
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