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Bazza · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:22 pm Post subject: Dependencies......

Are a right *&%*(%(*£ pain in the a***.

It is about time designers of SW got their acts together.

This could be an addendum to the latest Open Ballot about WMs...

Discuss...
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MartyBartfast · Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject:

Some distros have package managers that handle this (yum apt etc), what else is required other than those distros that don't have a package manager should get one?
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guy · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:02 pm Post subject:

Ah, the heady days of RISC OS when all the libraries and utilities had a single official version for each OS release and every app had to play with it. Compact, consistent and fast. But not exactly agile.

Rogue apps mushroomed, trying to deliver topical features ahead of the game - well, ahead of Acorn's game anyway. To keep their niche markets the app developers had no choice. How Acorn tantrumed at such disrespect! How the users promptly left in droves, taking the app developers with them....

Heady days. Dependency hell is the price of remaining competitive.
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Nerdy-ish · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:25 am Post subject:

Dependency handling is much better these days, on my systems is 99.9% automatically handled compared to the "olden" days of doing it yourself.

Having said that, there is still one install that suffers from dependency hell and having to trawl the internet to find out where certain files are in what libraries - installing Skype on a 64 bit machine. It requires a tonne of (32Bit) dependencies. Worse is, it might need a few KB from a file in a library, but the entire library is say 5MB.

nelz · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:29 am Post subject:

Ah, the joys of closed source software.
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Bazza · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:01 pm Post subject:

This is what pi$$e$ me off about Linux...
Another thing I have to do to compile something I want.

"bash: ./configure: /bin/sh^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory"

Looks like I have to check every text file to remove all the ^M, (RETURN),
so that bash can understand it...

What a RPITFA... >:<

Is bash so "inept" as to NOT recognise a CR and if necessary ignore it
when it sees it?

Why oh why oh why...

Come back Windows all is forgiven...
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Marrea · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:28 pm Post subject:

nelz · Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:47 pm Post subject:

You're complaining that a Unix-like OS can't execute a script saved in DOS format?

You're not the first, so there's a tool to switch line endings in text files

Bazza · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:36 am Post subject:

Hi nelz...

> You're not the first, so there's a tool to switch line endings in text files

Don't have dos2unix on this machine so......

I used ghex2 from a GUI icon which has the added advantage to check
whether there are any other unwanted characters visually.

A simple great tool...
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nelz · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:24 am Post subject:

ghex2 is installed by default but dos2unix isn't. Even if that's true, it takes seconds to install and a tool like that, or sed, doesn't require you to make individual changes to each file, it can batch the whole lot with one command.
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