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bobzr



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

I've just tried the new Fedora 11 and was disappointed about the LiveCD installation. If you choose to format in ext4 it will say you can't boot and if you try to format in ext3 it will say it doesn't match with ext4 cd filesystem. In fact it's necessary to create a new small ext3 boot partition and another one in ext4 for the system. I didn't find Gparted on the cd, which is strange since a LiveCD is supposed to be a rescue Cd.
It seems that you can only install one partition with ext3 and only with the complete DVD or CDs set.
I was disappointed about this new Fedora release but I may be wrong and I would like to hear other comments on it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Fedora have always used a separate /boot on recent releases, with everything else on logical volumes. Even if they aren't this time, and I haven't tried it yet, GRUB is now able to boot from ext4 filesystems.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Leonidas? Isn't that a bonbon shop? Wink
http://frontpage.fok.nl/nieuws/36004 (note: text in Dutch!)
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Wasn't that a bonbon shop would be more correct Razz nice that you got a train link in too Wink

as for Leonidas: http://www.ecommercetimes.com/story/67288.html?wlc=1244635761
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:15 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Should we not all scream "WE ARE SPARTA!!!!!!" Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:50 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

This is madness!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 3:47 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

"bonbonwinkel" sounds rude to me Laughing

of course it is madness Mike Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Ahem - back to Fedora: if you go to one of the Fedora mirrors and navigate to where the 32-bit live CD ISOs are kept, you get to download 'Fedora-11-i686-Live.iso'. But if you navigate to where the 32-bit DVD/CD installers are kept you are offered 'Fedora-11-i386-DVD.iso' for the DVD or 'Fedora-11-i386-disc*.iso' for the 6 CDs. i386 and i686. Presumably the kernels are compiled differently but everything else is the same. Or not? Or can you choose the i686 kernel from the DVD/CD sets? Or is something else going on? Does anyone know?

Does anyone care? Sad Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:34 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

The version of Grub that ships with F11 does not support ext4 booting at all your /boot partition must be ext3 fedora will not apply the patches that debian and ubuntu have they are waiting for an official Grub 2 release at least that's the reason being floated on the fedora forums for the last two months Wink And i believe it is also mentioned in the release notes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:15 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

But why get carried away with ext 4 distraction?
How is F11 generally?

I installed it from DVD iso AND

it is a bit disappointing actually -
loved fedora 10 but F11 seems to have problems

Newer is not always better – maybe F12 will be back on track (so long as, not everyone has deserted fedora by then). Where is Adam W? What's going on?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:39 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

But what will come after F12, my keyboard has no more F keys! Shocked

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

Adam W is kinda busy ATM i imagine as he now a Q&A guy for fedora he was doing a lot of bug triage pre-release so he may still have the bug stompers on Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Leonidas disappointment Reply with quote

sentient_one wrote:
But why get carried away with ext 4 distraction?
How is F11 generally?


Sad

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I installed it from DVD iso AND

it is a bit disappointing actually -
loved fedora 10 but F11 seems to have problems


I also installed from DVD. First I tried to upgrade my existing F10 installation. It found the / partition I'd used, then failed because it didn't like the swap partition I'd been using. Don't know if that was because I have a number of other Linux distributions installed and (I think) I was booted from Zenwalk before attempting the upgrade.

When I ended up having to install, the install took quite a while. Several times, I thought it had died, but it eventually started again.

With it installed, I seem to have no sound, at least not in KDE. Haven't tried Gnome yet. Otherwise, most things seem to be working. Not all that impressed though, I must admit.

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Newer is not always better – maybe F12 will be back on track (so long as, not everyone has deserted fedora by then). Where is Adam W? What's going on?

S


Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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With it installed, I seem to have no sound, at least not in KDE. Haven't tried Gnome yet.


You may have to run alsamixer -c and bring the levels up
And for the record i'm sticking with f10 for now as per my usual policy with new fedora releases i wait a few weeks for things to settle down

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lok1950 wrote:
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With it installed, I seem to have no sound, at least not in KDE. Haven't tried Gnome yet.


You may have to run alsamixer -c and bring the levels up
And for the record i'm sticking with f10 for now as per my usual policy with new fedora releases i wait a few weeks for things to settle down

Enjoy the Choice Smile


Thanks for the suggestion. Still no joy. Sound driver is correct, no errors reported, just no sound....

Smile I'll leave it alone for a while and see if anything changes with the next lot of updates.

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