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Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology

 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:39 pm    Post subject: Steve Jobs to WSJ, ditch dying Flash technology Reply with quote

Hi all...

Arrogant Apple A**hole...

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/02/steve-jobs-to-wsj-ditch-dying-flash-technology.ars
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, but I agree with him.
Flash is buggy, insecure, resource hungry, proprietary junk.
The sooner that Flash and ActiveX die the better, IMHO.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flash is buggy and does cause problems, it's just that h.264 isn't a suitable replacement. H.264/MPEG-4 AVC is a standard for video compression, which doesn't doesn't include interactivity. Part of the problem is that there is no replacement that does everything that Flash does in one package. This leads web developers to push Flash to it's limits and beyond.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Apple does it, it make make Adobe give their head a shake and fix the damned thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jobs is absolutely right. As Ollie says the alternatives are not perfect, but here's hoping - with time - that the combination of canvas, animated SVG, and ideally a free video format will become mature enough to replace them.

Today we have good competition in the browser world and increasing convergence towards standards (even IE is getting better). Having a binary blob from a single company involved in all of this is lame. Flash is a horrible old relic, and it doesn't help that it's almost comically badly programmed.

Death to Flash!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M-Saunders wrote:
Death to Flash!


Sounds like a war-cry from one of the endless battle scenes in Lord of the Rings. Question is: is Steve Jobs an orc, elf, goblin or hobbit? Confused

Whatever - is anyone up to writing a marching song based on this sentiment?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds more like something Ming the Merciless would shout Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi nelz...

> It sounds more like something Ming the Merciless would
> shout :)

He he, I remeber it the first time round. Oooooooh dems
sparklers outta da back of the space machine... ;o)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Flash.....

BBC iPlayer rejects open source plugins, takes Flash-only path
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi AndyBaxman...

Thanks for that...

I wonder why a PUBLIC broadcaster, paid for by the public,
wishes to remove around 10% of its payers from
viewing/listening to its content. Hmmm, is it now a fully
fledged business?
If so then let advertising pay for their licen(ce)/(se) and
running costs, that way they can decide how to stream
their content. As we are paying them then we should have
the choice of how to receive stream it...

I wonder if we have legal rights on this one?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that the BBC is having its arm twisted by the rights holders of (some of) the programmes it places on iPlayer.

I imaging the choice was "protect this content (from copying) or remove it". In other words p*ss of a relatively small number of FOSS fans or be forced to remove a large number of programmes and p*ss of a lot more people.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gnash team must be gutted.

AndyBaxman wrote:

I assume that the BBC is having its arm twisted by the rights holders of (some of) the programmes it places on iPlayer.

I imaging the choice was "protect this content (from copying) or remove it". In other words p*ss of a relatively small number of FOSS fans or be forced to remove a large number of programmes and p*ss of a lot more people.


Sign up to the BBC Backstage mailing list, makes for interesting reading from time to time.
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