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towy71
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I'm a gnu—I'm a gnu
The g-nicest work of g-nature in the zoo
I'm a gnu—how do you do?
You really oughtta g-know w-who's w-who
I'm a gnu—spelt G - N - U
I'm not a camel or a kangaroo
So let me introduce, I'm neither man nor moose
Oh, g-no, g-no, g-no, I'm a gnu!
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Rhakios
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Nelz has a point, so why don't we just call them FLOSS distros? That covers the vast majority of software contained in them and would allow for other kernels.
In fact, you could have FLOSS/Linux, FLOSS/Hurd, FLOSS/BSD, etc..
(No, I don't expect anyone to take this idea seriously)
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M-Saunders
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Perhaps this is covered in the insanely huge GNU/Linux FAQ on the GNU project's website, but...
OK, the GNU folks started glibc, GCC etc. Massive kudos to them. But the vast majority of work on those programs has been done by Linux companies -- Red Hat, IBM etc. Stallman talks about the GNU+Linux ecosystem as if GNU is beaving away on its own code and the Linux kernel folks just happen to grab bits of it now and then. When in fact, if you look at the commits to these projects, they're almost entirely from Linux people and companies.
As a comparison, if someone took MikeOS and spent many years improving it beyond all recognition -- GUI, networking etc. -- I wouldn't dream of asking them to still call it MikeOS. Yeah, a bit of credit in the docs would be nice, but if 99% of the work was not done by me I can't go around trying to change the name of the new project.
Just my two Eurocents...
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nelz
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With the changes mentioned recently, will you be changing the name to Bazza/MikeOS? 
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| nelz wrote: | | With the changes mentioned recently, will you be changing the name to Bazza/MikeOS? |
BikeOS?
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| nelz wrote: | | When operating system or distro names become longer than German nouns, you know something is not quite right. |
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AndyBaxman
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SupercalifragilisticexpialidociOS?
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jjmac
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Howdy All,
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How far do you go with this? A Linux distro is called so because it is base don the Linux kernel. Yes, it includes the GNU toolset, but it also includes QT or GTK, KDE or GNOME, maybe Apache, postfix or sendmail.
Does that mean I should say I'm using GNU/QT/KDE/Apache/Postfix/GTK/Google/Mozilla/Linux?
When operating system or distro names become longer than German nouns, you know something is not quite right.
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Well, if it is descriptive in terms of functionality ... or standards. Then the length or form is irrelevant. What is though, is if it is correct. And if it is correct then the symbol used to reflect it will tend to become more terse.
Personally i like the usage of 'GNU Linux' in that it reflects the spirit of Linux. It was after all largely, the work done by the FSF that got the ball rolling in terms of concept and also tool usage.
A Linux wouldn't be the same without emacs, but it would still be Linux with out kde or gnome.
(Go on people, bang on about that one if you must.)
I guess one should include other editors like 'vi' etc too.
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Nelz has a point, so why don't we just call them FLOSS distros? That covers the vast majority of software contained in them and would allow for other kernels.
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(You mean like, something a person can get their teeth into (grin)).
I suppose a person could really. Would a BSD be a FLOSS distro. I think it may well be so. Any distro that contained free open source software would have to be. In that case though, GNU Linux along with BSD would be subsets.
GNU Linux could also be thought of as a subset of UNIX Like systems as well.
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