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ollie
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: British Computer Society attack FOSS Reply with quote

Wow, the The Chartered Institute for IT (formerly the British Computer Society) found out what happens you publish articles with FUD attacking FOSS. Original garbage here, with the uncensored reply here.

For what it's worth I totally agree with Luke Leighton from Advogato.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. How much did commercial software vendors pay him for that? I think the editors and staff of LXF need to go on a little crusade.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

/me has now visions of Mike and Neil in armor on horseback Rolling Eyes Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Alternatively open source applications can be updated via the community as developers release updates free-of-charge for the good of the open source users. However, there are no guarantees that the patch will be written and released at all, let alone the quality of the patch, as there is no overriding responsibility to provide a service level of any kind.
It should be noted that MS operating systems have a lifetime and security updates can completely cease if the user doesn't buy in to the latest OS (possibly making your software incompatible, but wait, you can pay for that again too).

Hey, hasn't MS stopped security updates for XP as of 13th July?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leke wrote:
Hey, hasn't MS stopped security updates for XP as of 13th July?


No



too many "[quotes]"
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leke wrote:
Hey, hasn't MS stopped security updates for XP as of 13th July?
Microparp says Extended Support Retired 08/04/2014, but then they are illiterate enough render the past into the future Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leke wrote:
Hey, hasn't MS stopped security updates for XP as of 13th July?

No, that's Windows 98. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leke wrote:


Hey, hasn't MS stopped security updates for XP as of 13th July?

Actually, only XP SP2.
If you have SP3 installed, you are still supported for the time being (at the moment, until April 2014).
Of course, mainstream support HAS ended apart from security updates(sorry home users), but business support will continue.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi DM...

> /me has now visions of Mike and Neil in armor on horseback

Lord help us... ;)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ollie...

> For what it's worth I totally agree with Luke Leighton
> from Advogato.

Me too, he tore the article apart limb from limb...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dutch_Master wrote:
/me has now visions of Mike and Neil in armor on horseback Rolling Eyes Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green


Hope their armor is tick enough to withstand those bashing. May the FOSS be with you.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He obviously knows what he's chatting about, but littering the reply with sarcasm, swearing and personal attacks just made it seem a bit childish, would have had a greater impact without IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greg.d wrote:
He obviously knows what he's chatting about, but littering the reply with sarcasm, swearing and personal attacks just made it seem a bit childish, would have had a greater impact without IMO.


Agreed, far too much of it in so called "informed comment" IMHO
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: British Computer Society attack FOSS Reply with quote

Bloody hell there's no need to be hysterical, publishing an opinion piece on their web site is hardly an attack on FOSS by the BCS. Some people are just misinformed, correct them, move on and leave the drake to the tabloids.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howdy All,

A partial quote from the above,

Quote:

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However, there are no guarantees that the patch will be written and released at all, let alone the quality of the patch, as there is no overriding responsibility to provide a service level of any kind.
>>



Notice the professionalism fud line being used in the quote. It smacks of ignorance and or agenda of course.


Something i saw recently ... as part of someones sig i think (scratch_head).

Quote:

"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." - Albert Einstein



That is a double ended statement too, of course.

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