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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:45 pm    Post subject: They made a film about what? Reply with quote

I just saw this advertised and instantly face-palmed: Red riding hood
Maybe Pixar could have had some fun with it (a la Shrek), but a PG-13 film?, come oooon!

This has topped my list of stupid films they've spent over 40 million on.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Company Of Wolves, a film based on Angela Carter's take on the LRRH story has already been done (linky), so yes, why bother, again.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm,

I think you are confusing childhood fairly tales with the real thing. The versions we tell our children are necessarily sanitised so that they don't scare the crap out of them.

That which was termed a "Faery Tale" in the late middle ages would be classed as "Horror" today.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyBaxman wrote:
The versions we tell our children are necessarily sanitised so that they don't scare the crap out of them.


My daughter likes the scary crap put back into our too-PC versions. Like the 3 little pigs where the pigs and the wolf survive.

In my version of 3 billigoats gruff, the troll gets butted into the river, washed out to sea and eaten by a shark. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

heiowge wrote:
AndyBaxman wrote:
The versions we tell our children are necessarily sanitised so that they don't scare the crap out of them.


My daughter likes the scary crap put back into our too-PC versions. Like the 3 little pigs where the pigs and the wolf survive.

In my version of 3 billigoats gruff, the troll gets butted into the river, washed out to sea and eaten by a shark. Laughing


But, I bet, even the versions of Little Red Riding Hood from your childhood never featured the wolf cooking up granny and feeding her to Red?

Or the wolf ( werewolf or "wild" man) being in the process of raping Red as the woodsman arrived?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, funny that... Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heiowge wrote:
yeah, funny that... Confused


The point is, what we call "Fairy" tales are the modern sanitised and "U" certificated version of something that was originally much darker and more sinister.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But, I bet, even the versions of Little Red Riding Hood from your childhood never featured the wolf cooking up granny and feeding her to Red?

Or the wolf ( werewolf or "wild" man) being in the process of raping Red as the woodsman arrived?


Wheres that version?!? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wheres that version?!? Shocked


Mostly the 14th century French "The Story of Grandmother". Here the wolf is a bzou (werewolf).

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THERE was once a woman who had some bread, and she said to her daughter: "You are going to carry a hot loaf and a bottle of milk to your grandmother."
The little girl departed. At the crossroads she met the bzou, who said to her:
"Where are you going?"
"I'm taking a hot loaf and a bottle of milk to my grandmother."
"What road are you taking," said the bzou, "the Needles Road or the Pins Road?"
"The Needles Road," said the little girl.
"Well, I shall take the Pins Road."
The little girl enjoyed herself picking up needles. Meanwhile the bzou arrived at her grandmother's, killed her, put some of her flesh in the pantry and a bottle of her blood on the shelf. The little girl arrived and knocked at the door.
"Push the door," said the bzou, "it's closed with a wet straw."
"Hello, Grandmother; I'm bringing you a hot loaf and a bottle of milk."
"Put them in the pantry. You eat the meat that's in it and drink a bottle of wine that is on the shelf."
As she ate there was a little cat that said: "A slut is she who eats the flesh and drinks the blood of her grandmother!"
"Undress, my child," said the bzou, "and come and sleep beside me."
"Where should I put my apron?"
"Throw it in the fire, my child; you don't need it anymore."
"Where should I put my bodice?"
"Throw it in the fire, my child; you don't need it anymore."
"Where should I put my dress?"
"Throw it in the fire, my child; you don't need it anymore."
"Where should I put my skirt?"
"Throw it in the fire, my child; you don't need it anymore."
"Where should I put my hose?"
"Throw it in the fire, my child; you don't need it anymore."
"Oh, Grandmother, how hairy you are!"
"It's to keep me warmer, my child"
"Oh, Grandmother, those long nails you have!"
"It's to scratch me better, my child."
"Oh, Grandmother, those big shoulders that you have!"
"All the better to carry kindling from the woods, my child."
"Oh, Grandmother, those big ears that you have!"
"All the better to hear you with, my child."
"Oh, Grandmother, that big mouth you have!"
"All the better to eat you with, my child!"
"Oh, Grandmother, I need to go outside to relieve myself."
"Do it in the bed, my child."
"No, Grandmother, I want to go outside."
"All right, but don't stay long."
The bzou tied a woolen thread to her foot and let her go out, and when the girl was outside she tied the end of the string to a big plum tree in the yard. The bzou got impatient and said:
"Are you making cables?"
When he became aware that no one answered him, he jumped out of bed and saw that the little girl had escaped. He followed her, but he arrived at her house just at the moment she was safely inside.



Variations of this have the woodsman / father finding Red naked in the bed instead of escaping.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure that isn't a transcript from a dodgy film? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject...

http://www.humptydumptymovie.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Or the wolf ( werewolf or "wild" man) being in the process of raping Red as the woodsman arrived?

...and I thought only the Japanese were into weird sex stuff Surprised
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyBaxman wrote:
bobthebob1234 wrote:

Wheres that version?!? Shocked


Mostly the 14th century French "The Story of Grandmother". Here the wolf is a bzou (werewolf).



According to Jack Zipes in The Trials and Tribulations of Little Red Riding Hood that version was recorded around 1885, regardless of its origins (which are bound to be uncertain). The 1800s were a time of great activity for the recording of traditional stories as creeping modernisation threatened to sweep traditions away.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a problem with it. The movie looks pretty good. And it you try not to make the connection to the little red ridinghood fairytale we are all told when we are young, then you may enjoy the movie.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wildheart wrote:
I don't have a problem with it. The movie looks pretty good. And it you try not to make the connection to the little red ridinghood fairytale we are all told when we are young, then you may enjoy the movie.
Nice try Hollywood Laughing
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