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Bazza
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:27 pm    Post subject: ANyone heard about this... Reply with quote

Boy oh boy the USA again...

http://androidforums.com/politics-current-affairs/488783-judge-americans-can-forced-decrypt-their-laptops.html

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been the law in England and Wales for many years.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if, Whoops, I forgot the password, would work?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnhudson wrote:
It has been the law in England and Wales for many years.


Indeed. Its part of RIPA and was activated in Oct 2007 on the orders of the then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

No excuses are accepted and people have done jail time for refusing to reveal keys.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nelz wrote:
Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.


Not sure how that makes any difference?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plausible deniability? Provide access to information that is not the interesting information?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite story in that line was Duncan Campbell in the 1980s who stored all his sensitive information in the MP/M user areas and, when the police seized his computer, they used plain CP/M2.2 to view his disks and missed all the files in the MP/M user areas.

He didn't actually have to deny anything!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyBaxman wrote:
nelz wrote:
Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.


Not sure how that makes any difference?


If the Police have a search warrant for your shed, the Americans make you unlock the shed while the UK system forces you to hand over your house keys.

The American system makes you hand over the information they want, the UK approach give more carte blanche for a fishing expedition. It's especially important when you consider that most people do not use completely independent passwords for everything, even when they might think they do.
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