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Bazza LXF regular

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johnhudson LXF regular
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| It has been the law in England and Wales for many years. |
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leke LXF regular

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I wonder if, Whoops, I forgot the password, would work? _________________ I codes here: http://notsure.tk |
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AndyBaxman LXF regular

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| johnhudson wrote: | | It has been the law in England and Wales for many years. |
Indeed. Its part of RIPA and was activated in Oct 2007 on the orders of the then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.
No excuses are accepted and people have done jail time for refusing to reveal keys. _________________ Bomb #20: "Let there be light" |
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nelz Moderator

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Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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AndyBaxman LXF regular

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| nelz wrote: | | Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information. |
Not sure how that makes any difference? _________________ Bomb #20: "Let there be light" |
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bobthebob1234 LXF regular

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Plausible deniability? Provide access to information that is not the interesting information? _________________ For certain you have to be lost to find the places that can't be found. Elseways, everyone would know where it was |
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johnhudson LXF regular
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My favourite story in that line was Duncan Campbell in the 1980s who stored all his sensitive information in the MP/M user areas and, when the police seized his computer, they used plain CP/M2.2 to view his disks and missed all the files in the MP/M user areas.
He didn't actually have to deny anything! |
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nelz Moderator

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| AndyBaxman wrote: | | nelz wrote: | | Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information. |
Not sure how that makes any difference? |
If the Police have a search warrant for your shed, the Americans make you unlock the shed while the UK system forces you to hand over your house keys.
The American system makes you hand over the information they want, the UK approach give more carte blanche for a fishing expedition. It's especially important when you consider that most people do not use completely independent passwords for everything, even when they might think they do. _________________ Unix is user-friendly. It's just very selective about who it's friends are. |
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