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Postby Bazza » Sun Jan 29, 2012 8:27 pm

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Postby johnhudson » Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:03 pm

It has been the law in England and Wales for many years.
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Postby leke » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:03 am

I wonder if, Whoops, I forgot the password, would work?
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Postby AndyBaxman » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:48 am

johnhudson wrote:It has been the law in England and Wales for many years.


Indeed. Its part of RIPA and was activated in Oct 2007 on the orders of the then Home Secretary Jacqui Smith.

No excuses are accepted and people have done jail time for refusing to reveal keys.
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Postby nelz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:51 am

Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.
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Postby AndyBaxman » Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:22 pm

nelz wrote:Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.


Not sure how that makes any difference?
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Postby bobthebob1234 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:58 pm

Plausible deniability? Provide access to information that is not the interesting information?
For certain you have to be lost to find the places that can't be found. Elseways, everyone would know where it was
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Postby johnhudson » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:05 pm

My favourite story in that line was Duncan Campbell in the 1980s who stored all his sensitive information in the MP/M user areas and, when the police seized his computer, they used plain CP/M2.2 to view his disks and missed all the files in the MP/M user areas.

He didn't actually have to deny anything!
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Postby nelz » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:41 pm

AndyBaxman wrote:
nelz wrote:Which is different to how it is done in the US, where you are not required to provide the keys, only provide access to the information.


Not sure how that makes any difference?


If the Police have a search warrant for your shed, the Americans make you unlock the shed while the UK system forces you to hand over your house keys.

The American system makes you hand over the information they want, the UK approach give more carte blanche for a fishing expedition. It's especially important when you consider that most people do not use completely independent passwords for everything, even when they might think they do.
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