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Postby pedros » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:14 am

hello all,

new job, new pc... obviously with a non-standard size case so the video card wont fit.

on board amd radeon 6310 video card has two outputs, vga and hdmi. don't want to open brand new second monitor to test if it will need to be returned but is it likely i can run both monitors from the existing video card?
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Postby heiowge » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:22 am

Can you drill a hole in the case to make it fit? :lol:
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:00 am

What motherboard?
Some will, some won't
e.g.my ASrock a75m will.
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Postby pedros » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:11 pm

its this piece here,

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/acer-aspi ... 4-pdt.html


knew i should have just gone to the shop myself rather than letting sales people buy me stuff.
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Postby pedros » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:27 pm

sudo lshw provides the following details

Code: Select all
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             vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
             physical id: 16.2
             bus info: pci@0000:00:16.2
             version: 00
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 66MHz
             capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
             resources: irq:17 memory:feb48000-feb480ff
     *-pci:1
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 101
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
          version: 43
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:2
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 102
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:3
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 103
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:4
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 104
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=k10temp
          resources: irq:0
     *-pci:5
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 105
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:6
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 106
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.5
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:7
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 107
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.6
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:8
          description: Host bridge
          product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 108
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.7
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:29 pm

Looks like a PC world special, (not found on Acer site).
So a guess really.
As it is only a 32bit bus, I would guess no.
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Postby pedros » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:17 am

oh well, back to the shop for me...

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Postby dandnsmith » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:44 pm

Not sure where that comment about 32-bit bus comes from - I've several examples of (old) systems which can drive 2 monitors from amd radeon chipsets.
Unfortunately, the easiest way I know to check whether 2 monitors are possible is by running WinXP with all the proprietary drivers installed.
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:04 pm

dandnsmith wrote:Not sure where that comment about 32-bit bus comes from - I've several examples of (old) systems which can drive 2 monitors from amd radeon chipsets.
Unfortunately, the easiest way I know to check whether 2 monitors are possible is by running WinXP with all the proprietary drivers installed.


Read the display section in the lshw listing. my own Radeon motherboard (which will drive 2 monitors) has a 64bit bus.:)
So does the full version of the 6310, according to Wikipedia.

Seriously though, I could be wrong. I did say it was a guess, but being a budget proprietary motherboard, I wouldn't buy an extra monitor on the off chance.
You can get low-profile graphics cards though, so maybe try it and buy a gfx card if it doesn't work.
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Postby dandnsmith » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:39 am

I see what you're saying, but you've misunderstood what I said - I have several sets of hardware with radeon chipsets which can drive 2 monitors, and they have 32-bit bus.
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Postby ferrari » Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:58 am

I see what you're saying, but you've misunderstood what I said - I have several sets of hardware with radeon chipsets which can drive 2 monitors, and they have 32-bit bus.

I agree. The architecture shouldn't come into it. I've also had 32-bit machines with radeon (and other graphics) hardware that supported dual display devices just fine.[/code]
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Postby wyliecoyoteuk » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:28 pm

I should have been clearer, sorry. I was just pointing out that it is a cut-down cheaper version of the card, the full 6310 has a 64/128bit bus and will drive up to 3 displays.
Knowing how manufacturers trim specs to save even a fraction of a cent per unit, I doubt that a cut-price version will drive 2 displays simultaneously.
I have had to install graphics cards in several manufactured PCs for just that reason. Even ones with 2 outputs will only drive one at a time.
Of course, as I said, I could be wrong.
The documentation as usual, is non-existent, so the only way to find out for sure is to plug 2 monitors in and try it.

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