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hello all,
new job, new pc... obviously with a non-standard size case so the video card wont fit.
on board amd radeon 6310 video card has two outputs, vga and hdmi. don't want to open brand new second monitor to test if it will need to be returned but is it likely i can run both monitors from the existing video card? |
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Can you drill a hole in the case to make it fit? 
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What motherboard?
Some will, some won't
e.g.my ASrock a75m will.
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sudo lshw provides the following details
| Code: | xubuntu
description: Desktop Computer
product: Aspire X1430 (To be filled by O.E.M.)
vendor: Acer
serial: DTSJ5EK004211021579201
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.7 dmi-2.7 vsyscall32
configuration: administrator_password=disabled boot=normal chassis=desktop family=Acer Desktop power-on_password=disabled sku=To be filled by O.E.M. uuid=C89CDCA7-53DC-2012-0312-130009000000
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: Aspire X1430
vendor: Acer
physical id: 0
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: AMI
physical id: 0
version: P01-C1
date: 11/16/2011
size: 64KiB
capacity: 1984KiB
capabilities: pci apm upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect socketedrom edd int13floppy1200 int13floppy720 int13floppy2880 int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb biosbootspecification
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 4
bus info: cpu@0
version: AMD E-300 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
serial: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
slot: CPU 1
size: 1114MHz
capacity: 1300MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 100MHz
capabilities: x86-64 fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni monitor ssse3 cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch ibs skinit wdt arat npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save pausefilter cpufreq
configuration: cores=2 enabledcores=2 threads=2
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 5
slot: L1-Cache
size: 128KiB
capacity: 128KiB
capabilities: internal write-back unified
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 6
slot: L2-Cache
size: 1MiB
capacity: 1MiB
capabilities: internal varies data
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 24
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 4GiB
*-bank:0
description: DIMM Synchronous [empty]
vendor: Manufacturer1
physical id: 0
serial: SerNum1
slot: DIMM1
*-bank:1
description: DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1333 MHz (0.8 ns)
product: ACR512X64D3U13C9G
vendor: Kingston
physical id: 1
serial: 3A3C52CB
slot: DIMM2
size: 4GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 1333MHz (0.8ns)
*-pci:0
description: Host bridge
product: Family 14h Processor Root Complex
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
resources: irq:41 memory:b0000000-bfffffff ioport:f000(size=256) memory:feb00000-feb3ffff
*-multimedia:0
description: Audio device
product: Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 1.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=0
resources: irq:42 memory:feb44000-feb47fff
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Family 14h Processor Root Port
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 4
bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:16 ioport:1000(size=4096) memory:d0100000-d02fffff ioport:d0300000(size=2097152)
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 11
bus info: pci@0000:00:11.0
logical name: scsi0
logical name: scsi1
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage ahci_1.0 bus_master cap_list emulated
configuration: driver=ahci latency=64
resources: irq:19 ioport:f190(size=8) ioport:f180(size=4) ioport:f170(size=8) ioport:f160(size=4) ioport:f150(size=16) memory:feb4f000-feb4f3ff
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: WDC WD15EARX-00P
vendor: Western Digital
physical id: 0
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 51.0
serial: WD-WMAZA6532013
size: 1397GiB (1500GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=5182c187
*-volume:0
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
version: 3.1
serial: b850-6fe3
size: 20GiB
capacity: 21GiB
capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2012-02-25 10:43:21 filesystem=ntfs label=PQSERVICE state=clean
*-volume:1
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 2
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
logical name: /dev/sda2
version: 3.1
serial: 9c52-1056
size: 98MiB
capacity: 100MiB
capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2012-02-25 10:43:32 filesystem=ntfs label=SYSTEM RESERVED state=clean
*-volume:2
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 3
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,3
logical name: /dev/sda3
version: 3.1
serial: c0e64031-96b1-794f-8193-3ce9f125b934
size: 687GiB
capacity: 687GiB
capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2012-02-25 10:43:35 filesystem=ntfs label=Acer state=clean
*-volume:3
description: Windows NTFS volume
physical id: 4
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,4
logical name: /dev/sda4
version: 3.1
serial: b2c5e645-baf4-3a4e-ad21-3c5f8da10059
size: 688GiB
capacity: 688GiB
capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2012-02-25 10:43:48 filesystem=ntfs label=DATA state=clean
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: DVD A DH16ABSH
vendor: ATAPI
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/cdrw
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/dvdrw
logical name: /dev/sr0
logical name: /cdrom
version: YA12
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 mount.fstype=iso9660 mount.options=ro,noatime state=mounted status=ready
*-medium
physical id: 0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /cdrom
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: mount.fstype=iso9660 mount.options=ro,noatime signature=213cf8fc state=mounted
*-volume UNCLAIMED
description: Hidden HPFS/NTFS partition
physical id: 1
capacity: 695MiB
capabilities: primary bootable hidden
*-usb:0
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 12
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:18 memory:feb4e000-feb4efff
*-usb:1
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 12.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:12.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:17 memory:feb4d000-feb4d0ff
*-usb:2
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 13
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:18 memory:feb4c000-feb4cfff
*-usb:3
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 13.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:13.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:17 memory:feb4b000-feb4b0ff
*-serial
description: SMBus
product: SBx00 SMBus Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.0
version: 42
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
configuration: driver=piix4_smbus latency=0
resources: irq:0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.1
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master
configuration: driver=pata_atiixp latency=64
resources: irq:17 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:f100(size=16)
*-multimedia:1
description: Audio device
product: SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.2
version: 40
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=64
resources: irq:16 memory:feb40000-feb43fff
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.3
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master
configuration: latency=0
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.4
version: 40
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pci subtractive_decode bus_master vga_palette
*-usb:4
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 14.5
bus info: pci@0000:00:14.5
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:18 memory:feb4a000-feb4afff
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: SB700/SB800/SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 15
bus info: pci@0000:00:15.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:16 ioport:e000(size=4096) memory:fe100000-feafffff ioport:c0000000(size=268435456)
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
product: SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 15.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:15.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm pciexpress msi ht normal_decode bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport
resources: irq:16 ioport:d000(size=4096) ioport:d0000000(size=1048576)
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 06
serial: c8:9c:dc:a7:53:dc
size: 100Mbit/s
capacity: 1Gbit/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=full firmware=rtl8168e-3_0.0.4 03/27/12 ip=192.168.1.89 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes port=MII speed=100Mbit/s
resources: irq:40 ioport:d000(size=256) memory:d0004000-d0004fff memory:d0000000-d0003fff
*-usb:5
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 16
bus info: pci@0000:00:16.0
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: ohci bus_master
configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:18 memory:feb49000-feb49fff
*-usb:6
description: USB controller
product: SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 16.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:16.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: pm debug ehci bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=64
resources: irq:17 memory:feb48000-feb480ff
*-pci:1
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 101
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
version: 43
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:2
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 102
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:3
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 103
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:4
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 104
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: driver=k10temp
resources: irq:0
*-pci:5
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 105
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.4
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:6
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 106
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.5
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:7
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 107
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.6
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:8
description: Host bridge
product: Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
physical id: 108
bus info: pci@0000:00:18.7
version: 00
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
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Looks like a PC world special, (not found on Acer site).
So a guess really.
As it is only a 32bit bus, I would guess no.
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oh well, back to the shop for me...
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Not sure where that comment about 32-bit bus comes from - I've several examples of (old) systems which can drive 2 monitors from amd radeon chipsets.
Unfortunately, the easiest way I know to check whether 2 monitors are possible is by running WinXP with all the proprietary drivers installed.
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| dandnsmith wrote: | Not sure where that comment about 32-bit bus comes from - I've several examples of (old) systems which can drive 2 monitors from amd radeon chipsets.
Unfortunately, the easiest way I know to check whether 2 monitors are possible is by running WinXP with all the proprietary drivers installed. |
Read the display section in the lshw listing. my own Radeon motherboard (which will drive 2 monitors) has a 64bit bus.
So does the full version of the 6310, according to Wikipedia.
Seriously though, I could be wrong. I did say it was a guess, but being a budget proprietary motherboard, I wouldn't buy an extra monitor on the off chance.
You can get low-profile graphics cards though, so maybe try it and buy a gfx card if it doesn't work.
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I see what you're saying, but you've misunderstood what I said - I have several sets of hardware with radeon chipsets which can drive 2 monitors, and they have 32-bit bus.
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| Quote: | | I see what you're saying, but you've misunderstood what I said - I have several sets of hardware with radeon chipsets which can drive 2 monitors, and they have 32-bit bus. |
I agree. The architecture shouldn't come into it. I've also had 32-bit machines with radeon (and other graphics) hardware that supported dual display devices just fine.[/code] |
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I should have been clearer, sorry. I was just pointing out that it is a cut-down cheaper version of the card, the full 6310 has a 64/128bit bus and will drive up to 3 displays.
Knowing how manufacturers trim specs to save even a fraction of a cent per unit, I doubt that a cut-price version will drive 2 displays simultaneously.
I have had to install graphics cards in several manufactured PCs for just that reason. Even ones with 2 outputs will only drive one at a time.
Of course, as I said, I could be wrong.
The documentation as usual, is non-existent, so the only way to find out for sure is to plug 2 monitors in and try it.
As ever,YMMV
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