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nelz · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject:

Dell UK sell computers without an OS.
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godofthedevil · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:20 pm Post subject:

has anyone noticed compaines like dell say "we recommend windows xp pro" or something to that effect.. they dont say why though.. then again they wont sell much saying "dell recommends windows xp pro because microsoft paied us a load of money to say so" lol
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GMorgan · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:07 pm Post subject:

nelz · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject:

Not on their server/business machines. An OS, Windows or Linux, is a chargeable upgrade on the base spec.
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towy71 · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject:

TCO is some bol**** that Mocroparp and their ilk use to hoodwink the uninitiated to buy the crap OS preinstalled. I think that TCO means the "total cost of ownership" which doesn't mean anything!
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nelz · Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject:

TCO relates to the alleged hidden costs of running an OS in business - Trumped-up Corporate Overheads...
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GMorgan · Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 12:08 am Post subject:

The guy doing the article claimed he was an OSS advocate but came to the conclusion that while things like OOo could easily be used to replace MSO all the packages in question were available cross platform (though OOo is painfully slow on XP, even worse than normal usually takes 15 seconds on my XP box and about 6 on my Kubuntu one) so the only real question was how much the OS costs to maintain, he still said that Linux certainly is cheaper (including training costs) but not by as much as most claim.

If its the case that Dell sell business machines without an OS then thats good but how do those machines compare in price to normal ones. Also it seems a bit strange if they allow a blank machine to be sold, I thought they'd make a profit on the OS and allowing you a blank machine means you'd likely install you own OS for free.

The market condition in question is one that MS have enforced and the only way to really break it is a long term campaigne by the likes of IBM. They don't have to out sell MS just sell enough to open the market up.

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wyliecoyoteuk · Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject:

http://www.darwinawards.com/

Just for the people who think that a childproof cap is a silly idea. Smile

I personally agree, for example a warning on a packet of peanuts saying "not suitable for small children and babies" is probably just there because someone sued the peanut company, and the "careful really hot" label on Macdonalds coffee is there because some stupid bimbo burnt herself trying to drink it while driving, and sued Macdonalds.
Maybe we should have warning labels on computers "Caution- may cause lack of sleep and irrational outbursts".
"Warning may cause people to avoid your conversation in the pub"
"Danger-prolonged use may cause friends and family to ask you to fix their computer for free" Twisted Evil

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candy · Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject:

If you look around their are good sellers of reconditioned base units for under GBP 100 which will give you either a high speed P3 (1000mhz) or a Celeron 2.4 which is what I'll be getting by the end of the month.

I've never been impressed by DSG staff know-how having attempted to use them in the recent past but the villians when it comes to insisting on supplying stuff you don't need are the OEM's and M$.

It is a pity if you're intent on using Linux you can't get a laptop new without the pre-installed XP which ultimately you pay for.

Most of my improvements in security have been from shared knowledge from others on safe practices and using the firewall in the D-Link modem coupled with changing to Firefox and Thunderbird.

I'm having less bluescreens and freezing up now having done that than ever before on this 500 mhz P3 machine on Win 98SE.

As for Offices Suites frankly I would not pay for M$ Office 2003 having used Open Office2.0.3. It's really good and I really enjoy using it since downloading the program in late July.

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emyr42 · Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:30 am Post subject:

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