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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

How do you pronounce router?

1. r out r
2. r oot r

I have only heard 1 until the other day when I heard rooter being used.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

Networking device - 2. But then I do speak proper English Wink

Wood tool - 1. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

1 is a woodworkers tool
2 is a network device

proper English Rolling Eyes Razz Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

Ignoring the Americans who pronounce many, many things in goofy, goofy ways Smile In Canada both devices are pronounced router because that is how it is spelled, why on earth would one be rooter and one router? A router (network device) routes packets, not roots them (unless there is something wrong, then it might root them in the Australian meaning of the word Wink )
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

If you delve into the depths of the start up, you will find a message that says
rRoute me harder.
So a woodworking device is probably correct. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

some one from the northeast of England, a Canadian and a Brummie discussing pronunciation.... eek

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

donoreo wrote:
why on earth would one be rooter and one router?


I think I may have an explanation, courtesy of my New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, shorter because it *only* consists of two hernia-inducing volumes. Sad In fact the British pronunciations have a logic to them - the etymology is different.

Router (as in networking) derives from 'route' in the sense of a 'way, road, or course of travel or passage from one place to another'. In Blighty, route is pronounced 'root', because the word is derived from the French, and that's how they pronounce it. (I think.) Check it out next time you're in Quebec, donoreo. Smile

Router (as in woodworking tool) is derived from the verb rout, meaning 'scoop out, cut a groove...' - both pronounced the 'American' way. Interestingly, my dictionary tells me that the verb rout in this sense is a variant of the verb root, and guess how that is pronounced? Confused

But not to be confused with rout, meaning 'to retreat in disorder...', which produces a third noun 'router' (pronounced router Razz), meaning 'a person who takes part in a rout, a rioter'.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

Oh, hang on, just found about half-a-dozen more entries for the word 'rout', some of which have several meanings. They were in the previous column. I should imagine you could make 'router' from most or all of them. I'm not going to type the whole lot out, but here's a sample:

A company, band, or troop of people.
A flock or herd of animals.
A disorderly... crowd of people.
A large evening party or reception. Shocked
Snore
Rush, dash.
Of a cow: bellow, roar.
Discomfiture of an army.

I like the last one - it sounds a bit pythonesque. We don't intend to win this battle, merely discomfit the enemy. Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

/me hands spottedcat some laxative chocolate Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

towy71 wrote:
/me hands spottedcat some laxative chocolate Razz


And that would lead to.. let me see... rout = 'frenzied exodus'. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

towy71 wrote:
some one from the northeast of England, a Canadian and a Brummie discussing pronunciation.... eek

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Could be worse, it could include an american and a scot Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blighty, route is pronounced 'root', because the word is derived from the French, and that's how they pronounce it. (I think.) Check it out next time you're in Quebec, donoreo. Smile


Depends on which part of Quebec Wink there are French dialects you know

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

wyliecoyoteuk wrote:
towy71 wrote:
some one from the northeast of England, a Canadian and a Brummie discussing pronunciation.... eek

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Could be worse, it could include an american and a scot Smile



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:58 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: How do you pronounce "router"? Reply with quote

Here is the response I got from a forum closer to home:

2 is a device used to clean blockages out of toilets. (rooter)
1 is a networking device. (router)

Hey, I already made the American joke! As far a Quebec goes, they do not speak real French there, just ask someone from France Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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As far a Quebec goes, they do not speak real French there, just ask someone from France Wink


It's French alright just 16th century French we still use several words that are considered archaic in modern French 200 yrs of isolation can do that.

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