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kamrananvaar
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and int Reply with quote

Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and internet traffic have been condemned as "Orwellian".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7671046.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

Warning over phone calls database
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7507627.stm
Someone's watching you
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/7296856.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 5:07 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

The NSA in the states has been doing something similar with all traffic routed through the states for years "National Security"

Enjoy the Choice:)
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:00 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

Your real names and addresses are now in our database. You will be watched. Please cooperate in future citizens!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

Resistance is useless!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

It's a huge waste of money. The only way they will be able to deal with the volumes of data they have will be to build algorithms to search it; then anyone who wants to hide their activities will simply have to find the algorithms and adjust their behaviour to beat the algorithms.

OK they may strike lucky occasionally. But the expense will almost certainly outweigh the occasional result.

I don't even think civil servants, or indeed many of the computer companires that will bid for the jobs, are likely to be sufficiently well aware of the difficulties to even recognise that the job isn't viable.

That much is evident from the repeated failures of civil servants, and in many cases private companies, to manage IT projects of any size.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

Data will be analysed using cloud computing, so that citizens can help to spy on themselves. Thank you for your cooperation. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

The NSA monitoring is keyword and names of interest triggered and as i said been in operation for at least a decade. I use to play darts with a crew of a Canadian Forces station here in Ottawa that did shall we call it contract work for that effort along with an Aussie forces group so it may just be that the UK is playing me too Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: RE: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

What would happen if ever one that made a phone call, decided to give them the keywords that they were looking for?
Do you think that would cause a problem for them ?
Just curios
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone and Reply with quote

janlulfh wrote:
What would happen if ever one that made a phone call, decided to give them the keywords that they were looking for?
Do you think that would cause a problem for them ?
Just curios


Let us know the results when you try this out Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: RE: Re: Proposals for a central database of all mobile phone Reply with quote

Remember folks! Terrorists HATE our freedom, and are seeking to actively destroy it. Look at all the freedoms they've taken away from us. And look at how much our governments are doing to EXPAND our freedoms.

Sigh. This is going to be a pretty crap century without a general strike or something Smile

Oh no -- now the govt. will mark me down as an agitator!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Re: Proposals for a central database of all mobile p Reply with quote

M-Saunders wrote:

Oh no -- now the govt. will mark me down as an agitator!

M


Either that, or your namesake who works for Citigroup (interviewed on Radio 4 today), given the general level of government "intelligence". Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:38 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Proposals for a central database of all mobi Reply with quote

Mike Saunders is a washing machine component Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: RE: Re: RE: Re: Proposals for a central database of all mobi Reply with quote

I will not bother trying it again Mad. Could not be bothered with the mobile or house phone losing connection again, every time i spoke about certain things.
Saying that it might have been me just being paranoid or insane Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Proposals for a central database of all Reply with quote

janlulfh wrote:

Saying that it might have been me just being paranoid or insane Smile


That's what "they" want you to think, soon you will voluntarily submit for repro... er therapy. Wink
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